I love all this talk about Martinez being overrated.

[IronDanHamza]

It wasn't the best performance but Martinez should have committed to the body earlier, as Barker was noticeably open to the body. He managed to get to the body and break Barker down somewhat, but the process could have ran alot smoother. Still, Martinez did what he had to do. It's like top fighters aren't allowed to be in competitive fights, know what I mean?

Top fighters are alllowed to be in competitive fights, of course.

But, not when they are fighting fighters on the level of Darren Barker.

Then, they aren't allowed to be in competitive fights.

[Shadows]

I've thought he's been overrated for a while.

He's a very good fighter, not a great one, IMO.

[fitefanSHO]

It was frustrating to hear HBO denigrate Barker, and ignore what he was doing in there. Barker won the 3rd and 4th rounds, but you would never know it from listening to those announcers.

[jrosales13]

Completely agree. I like Martinez a lot, but I think even De La Hoya would've given him major problems at 154 and maybe 160.

This is just getting plain ol' silly now.

[$tate of Mind]

I think Sergio is rated about right. It's not like many people consider him to be P4P # 1 and an ATG.

[mathed]

I think Sergio is rated about right. It's not like many people consider him to be P4P # 1 and an ATG.

I think he should be ahead of Ward personally.

[Bushbaby]

I think Sergio is rated about right. It's not like many people consider him to be P4P # 1 and an ATG.

So you go all the way back to 2011 to post that??

I think he should be ahead of Ward personally.

No way. Ward is pfp the best fighter in boxing right now. Bar none.

[$tate of Mind]

I think he should be ahead of Ward personally.

I consider Andre Ward to be the world's best fighter. Sergio is definitely top 3 imo though.

[$tate of Mind]

So you go all the way back to 2011 to post that??

I stumbled across this thread and decided to post in it.

[Bushbaby]

I stumbled across this thread and decided to post in it.

No worries. It just reminded me of this 1 new guy that bumped a tread form years ago to say he didn't like to talk about the subject of the tread, lol!!