Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez Stalls Darren Barker's Brave Stand

[mistermartin]

You don't even give Sergio enough credit. Because he actually did not start boxing until he was 20. And again this is just my opinion and it is all based on on who he has fought.

As far as no one wanting to fight Paul Williams I believe it was because Williams and his people are difficult to deal with, want proof? Paul wanted 50-50 to fight Pavlik when he had never even fought in the middleweight division. And even his best wins have huge question marks. Because His win over Margacheato has been debated and many of the so called experts believe he actually lost that fight. He also never dominated any division and is only 2-2 in title fights and lost to Quintana and looked very bad in doing so. He gets credit for knocking Quintana out but that looks like it was more of a fluke then anything else. Two of his best wins were over very faded fighters that were pushing 40 and neither of them have fought since. I also believe Sergio beat him the first time and then he got knocked cold by him. And then, in my opinion, he lost to Lara in every way accept on the scorecards. So, yes I believe Williams was way, way, way, way overrated. And even though I still think Sergio won the first fight it was still a close fight with a fighter that I believe was not that good and highly overrated.

As far as Pavlik is concerned he was, or is, a very limited fighter who has problems with movement and speed. Which Sergio has plenty of yet Pavlik was still able to dominate four rounds of the fight. Or I should say is was real easy to score 5-8 for Pavlik. And that is not even taking into consideration what kind of personal demons Kelly has been dealing with in the past few years.

I also see no need to mention Dzinzirk again and I didn't mention Cintron because I don't think he deserves to be mentioned. And I also did not make myself clear earlier. It is not that I don't believe that Sergio isn't a good fighter because I actually believe that he is. And as I stated I like him. However, you can't compare him to Pacman or Floyd simply because he hasn't fought anywhere near the same level of competition and doesn't have the longevity of doing so, so again no comparison. And he has yet to dominate the middleweight division or for that matter any other division. Because as of today the only two true middleweights he has beaten are Pavlik and Barker.

So, based on what I just stated and what I saw last night I see a good fighter with skill. However, I just don't see one of the best P4P fighters in the world. But, that is not saying he can't get there I just don't think, as many others seem to, that he has arrived yet. And therefore in my humble opinion I believe that he is overrated.

Understood. But I think U gotta mention the guys you said are not worth mentioning. Hindsight is 20/20. He jabbed the **** out of dzinzurich kd'd the guy FIVE times! He hit Cintron so hard he thought he was hit by a headbutt!! By looking back on fights After they"ve been fought & guys are made to look avg just is hardly fair to a fighter. Williams was absolutely avoided. Wut other reason would a man feel like he has to travel between 3 wt classes for a fight. & I agree he was overrated. But I also think he took on a margarito that nobody else wanted to fight at the time . That was his biggest win(he def won that fight althogh close)

As far of the class of opp between Floyd & pac being a higher calibre...I don't see ur point. Clottey, tony (2 yr suspension)... cotto(post-tony)... 40 yr old shane (b4 & after getting shut out & beat up)... ORtiz.....Ricky Hatton...david diaz....I mean the only one who has a resume of tougher comp than martinez back to back to back to me is Froch... & truthfully...U mean to tell me that manny looked spectacular in the shane fight?? or the Clottey fight?? He didn't lose his position. Or floyd in the oscar fight or baldomir fight?? Point is....a fighter won't look spectacular in every match. & as floyd says...a real champ "FINDS A WAY TO WIN"

What 5 fighters do you rate above him??

[Tomasio]

Maybe & most likely Freddy Roach seen something in this fight that he could work on for "HYPE JOB" J.C Chavez Jr & will somehow implant some BALLS(COJONES) on Chavez Jr & convince Chavez Jr to stop hiding & making excuses & finally fight Martinez.. But 1st he would have to convince SCUMBAG Arum & then work on Chavez Jr..

[Larazaunida]

Try to say that after 90 punches to the right side of your head. I think the ko was legit. Possible ear damage/issue

From badlefthook.com in regard to barker ko "Promoter Eddie Hearn said earlier today on Twitter that Barker suffered a perforated eardrum."

Called it.

[EL ANIMAL]

something was alil off with the way this guy got Ko'd. a punch on the glove after taking shots on the chin all night?

anyway this boy laid the blueprint on how to beat martinez if u watched it close enough.

[daggum]

From badlefthook.com in regard to barker ko "Promoter Eddie Hearn said earlier today on Twitter that Barker suffered a perforated eardrum."

Called it.

how come barker said he couldn't remember what happened? are you telling me those little shots were concussive? if his eardrum was perforated at that moment by the little punches how can he not remember it? this doesn't add up. i think they bet the over in the fight then took a dive.

[The Smash]

Funny watching the PR offensive from the Martinez mafia. The fact is your man lost 8 rounds against a part-time janitor and hasn't fought a live opponent in years. He is a bum. If he fought Chavez, he'd get KO'd in 3 rounds.

43 have tried and 43 have failed.

[LeadUppercut]

you have the nerve to quote me after i schooled your @ss about weightclasses dumb b1tch?... ..

1.) I dont believe that you have schooled anyone, EVER !!

2.) Your entire boxing knowledge could fit inside a matchbox, a full one at that

3.) You are rated by most as just above Check-hooks, the boxingscene jester

4.) Weightclasses? Kid, dont you think that boxing is all about fight-night weight, that divisions dont matter, and that Manny and Marquez are the same size, even though one is a welter and the other a lightweight?

5.) Go drown yourself ****, you pig-ignorant non-boxing fanboys..... are a joke

[LeadUppercut]

tremendous respect to barker, didn't think he'd hang on that long. it was a good competitive fight, deff not sergio's best performance, obviously. hopefully next is sturm, rubio, or pirog. and lol @ all the *******s on here tonight hating...truly some funny stuff.

*******s hate Martinez, Marquez, and Mayweather..... coz those guys have punked "padded" Pacquiao sooooo many times...... you're right, its as funny as hell.

The extent of their boxing knowledge stops after those who have disrespected Pac

[LeadUppercut]

See..,, weighed 165 on fight night which would have been 20 lbs heavier than Pacquiao and 15 pounds heavier than Mayweather. Sergio can't hardly handle guys his size, no way in hell will he have the balls to go get BHop like Oscar did. And whether it's Cotto, Margarito, Mayweather, or Pacquiao, those are fights Sergio out weighs them all by more than 12-15 pounds on fight night. That's BS. Stay there and struggle with guys your size, or grow a pair and go fight some old legend named Bernard Hopkins.

Dont be so ridiculous.

The guy is a large JMW, who is already punching above his weight.

Williams (who called out Hopkins at 170) and Pavlik (who fought Hopkins at 170) ..... ring a bell?

Barker was considerably bigger than Martinez.

You wouldnt happen to be a Pac fan by any chance ?

[LeadUppercut]

That has got to be one of the ******est comments that I have ever read!!!!!!!!!!

puga likes Pac..... say no more

The kid is an idiot, give him a break.