What Was Up With Lampley During The Fight?

[LatinKing416]

You talkin about this combo? Floyd lands maybe three shots here, and dont argue that he hurt Ortiz, he clearly pulls Ortizs head down with the left and hits him while holding, and you can clearly see Cortez move in to warn Floyd for that.
He threw a nice combo but landed few and did not hurt ortiz, as I pointed out and its right here in the gif, he pulled him down and and hit him with the right hand but I am sure you will argue that he staggered him

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no he was not staggered

but those are SCORING BLOWS and ACCUMULATIVE BLOWS


youre right, mayweather wasnt DOMINATING the rounds 1 and 2. especially watching it live. but do you watch scorecards or watch the fight?

watching it over and over, ITS CLEAR HE WAS IN CONTROL FROM THE STARTING BELL, AND THAT ORTIZ HAD A GAMEPLAN TO USE HIS HEAD

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Do you even understand what teh word dominant means???

MAYWEATHER WAS WINNING THOSE ROUNDS

Do you know what the word means? you can win rounds but that does not mean your dominating, not by a long shot, Even steward ringside for that fight and lamply both agreed that Floyd was not outclassing Ortiz.
But I guess your word your expert opinion means more than theirs right, these are people that have been involved in the sport longer than you have been alive, and you expect me to take your word over theirs?

Grow the **** up, you dont always have to be right, and nobody has to come here and agree with what you say if they saw the fight from a different perspective.

Floyd was winning the round, Dominant no ****ing way. you want to see Dominant watch Floyd fight Marquez, or Floyd fight Mosley thats dominant.

But Floyd vs Ortiz, that **** was Close, Floyd fighting DLH that fight was very close officially a single point SD, for the red corner, the same corner that DLH fought out of that night.
But you avoid addressing that as well I am sure as it suites you, you would like for me to look at the official scoring for the Ortiz fight rather than describe what I saw.
But then if I say okay, lets look at the official scoring for FLoyd vs DLH, you will put spin on it and claim that the judges were corupt or some ****.

you cant have it both ways, which is exactly why we have these debates. bottom line is the only people who think that Floyd dominated, are the people who are madly in love with Floyd Mayweather....

[x3_bazooka_x3]

no he was not staggered

but those are SCORING BLOWS and ACCUMULATIVE BLOWS


youre right, mayweather wasnt DOMINATING the rounds 1 and 2. especially watching it live. but do you watch scorecards or watch the fight?

watching it over and over, ITS CLEAR HE WAS IN CONTROL FROM THE STARTING BELL, AND THAT ORTIZ HAD A GAMEPLAN TO USE HIS HEAD

I score the fight as I watch it live, and honestly the first round I had even, why is that? Floyd did well with his right hand leads in the first 20 seconds, then allowed Ortiz to work until the last 20 seconds, Floyds shots were cleaner of the two, But Ortiz worked for most of the round and landed some nice shots of his own.

However the reason I went back to look at how Lederman and the official judges scored it, was because I just happend to be at home the night they rebroadcasted this **** with episode 5.
And get this, inbetween rounds 3 and 4, on the rebroadcast, in between rounds, the camera goes ringside to Merchant, lamps and Steward, and you clearly see in the background the compubox counter stand up, look at their un official score cards, and hit that compubox counter several times...
Now why in the **** is the compubox counter doing this when neither guy is fighting?
and its there on video you can go to youtube and look for episode 5 of 24/7 and see it for yourself.
Both fighters were in control both came with a good game plan to win, how it ended, well lets not get into that, weather legal or illegal, it just was not right.
The headbutt from Victor was dog dirty as well nobody is saying that wasnt wrong.
However if you want to try and argue that Floyd dominated I aint going to let you off the hook that easy because you say he did, there was no domination in this fight

[LatinKing416]

I score the fight as I watch it live, and honestly the first round I had even, why is that? Floyd did well with his right hand leads in the first 20 seconds, then allowed Ortiz to work until the last 20 seconds, Floyds shots were cleaner of the two, But Ortiz worked for most of the round and landed some nice shots of his own.

However the reason I went back to look at how Lederman and the official judges scored it, was because I just happend to be at home the night they rebroadcasted this **** with episode 5.
And get this, inbetween rounds 3 and 4, on the rebroadcast, in between rounds, the camera goes ringside to Merchant, lamps and Steward, and you clearly see in the background the compubox counter stand up, look at their un official score cards, and hit that compubox counter several times...
Now why in the **** is the compubox counter doing this when neither guy is fighting?
and its there on video you can go to youtube and look for episode 5 of 24/7 and see it for yourself.
Both fighters were in control both came with a good game plan to win, how it ended, well lets not get into that, weather legal or illegal, it just was not right.
The headbutt from Victor was dog dirty as well nobody is saying that wasnt wrong.
However if you want to try and argue that Floyd dominated I aint going to let you off the hook that easy because you say he did, there was no domination in this fight

i see your problem... youre watching HBO broadcast of fights looool AND youre going by what you see televised on "24/7" AS THEIR TRUE GAMEPLAN LOOOOOLL



watch sky sports for all fights... forget ****** senile merchant and lederman saying 'JIM' AND DONT BELIEVE ANY GAMEPLAN OR ANY TRAINING FOOTAGE ON HBO 24/7... A TRUE CAMP WILL NEVER LET CAMERAS KNOW WHAT THEIR TRUE INTENTIONS ARE BEFORE A FIGHT



YOU WOULD MAKE ONE OF THE WORLDS WORST JUDGES YOU GULLIBLE PERSON

[x3_bazooka_x3]

i see your problem... youre watching HBO broadcast of fights looool AND youre going by what you see televised on "24/7" AS THEIR TRUE GAMEPLAN LOOOOOLL



watch sky sports for all fights... forget ****** senile merchant and lederman saying 'JIM' AND DONT BELIEVE ANY GAMEPLAN OR ANY TRAINING FOOTAGE ON HBO 24/7... A TRUE CAMP WILL NEVER LET CAMERAS KNOW WHAT THEIR TRUE INTENTIONS ARE BEFORE A FIGHT



YOU WOULD MAKE ONE OF THE WORLDS WORST JUDGES YOU GULLIBLE PERSON

What makes sky so much better, I dont get influenced by what Lamps and Merchant say, I watch the actual fight.
in regards to 24/7 they dont show game plans there, that is just to hype the fight I have no idea why your bringing that up as it has nothing to do with the fight.

and personally I dont give a **** what you think of me had I been a judge, let me ask you, what have you done in this sport? if your answer is nothing get the **** off my nuts.

Both sides will always have an arguement, why is that? becuase people will always view the fights differently than the man standing next to them, its something we have to live with as fans.

But just because people come here and claim one thing, and its co signed by a bunch of Floynatics, that does not mean that its the truth. there are plenty of people in boxing who have said, had that fight gone into the late rounds Floyd would have have found himself in a very un comfortable position.

Reason being, the fight was fought at a very high pace for a Mayweather fight, and I ask anybody here to please point out the last time Mayweather threw 52 shots per round in the first four rounds and the majority of them being power shots.
Now add that with the fact that alot of Floyds left hooks and jabs hit air.... he was on track to throw 600 + shots for the fight if the fight continued at that pace.
and do you think had he maintained that pace that he would have gotten stronger and not gotten tired? you cant exactly say that neither, we havent seen Floyd in there like that at welter against a young welterweight who out weighed him by 14 pounds.
do me a favor, since your so confident that Floyd was dominating and that had the cheap shot not happend, show me a fight at welter in which Mayweather was fighting at that pace.
You cant find one, and after a 16 month lay off against a kid 10 years younger, this fight was headed to be a fight

[Champ Is Here]

Thats why when I watch their fights, I put it on mute

Buncha old mutha****as

Thats why their analysis be soooooo different from the actual judges who sit there and judge it correctly. Not talk the whole time and try to put on a show

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Thats why when I watch their fights, I put it on mute

Buncha old mutha****as

Thats why their analysis be soooooo different from the actual judges who sit there and judge it correctly. Not talk the whole time and try to put on a show

You know what your so right in this regard, I mean what do they know, They were only talking about how dominant Lennox was when he was beating the dog **** out of Holyfield, and when it came down to your judges, well the judges got that right then and I guess Lamps and Merchant calling it highway robbery was a joke it was really a draw right?

you cant have it both ways the actual judges actually **** up alot

[Champ Is Here]

You know what your so right in this regard, I mean what do they know, They were only talking about how dominant Lennox was when he was beating the dog **** out of Holyfield, and when it came down to your judges, well the judges got that right then and I guess Lamps and Merchant calling it highway robbery was a joke it was really a draw right?

you cant have it both ways the actual judges actually **** up alot

Im mainly talking about Floyd fights

Ever since De La Hoya

[LatinKing416]

What makes sky so much better, I dont get influenced by what Lamps and Merchant say, I watch the actual fight.
in regards to 24/7 they dont show game plans there, that is just to hype the fight I have no idea why your bringing that up as it has nothing to do with the fight.

and personally I dont give a **** what you think of me had I been a judge, let me ask you, what have you done in this sport? if your answer is nothing get the **** off my nuts.

Both sides will always have an arguement, why is that? becuase people will always view the fights differently than the man standing next to them, its something we have to live with as fans.

But just because people come here and claim one thing, and its co signed by a bunch of Floynatics, that does not mean that its the truth. there are plenty of people in boxing who have said, had that fight gone into the late rounds Floyd would have have found himself in a very un comfortable position.

Reason being, the fight was fought at a very high pace for a Mayweather fight, and I ask anybody here to please point out the last time Mayweather threw 52 shots per round in the first four rounds and the majority of them being power shots.
Now add that with the fact that alot of Floyds left hooks and jabs hit air.... he was on track to throw 600 + shots for the fight if the fight continued at that pace.
and do you think had he maintained that pace that he would have gotten stronger and not gotten tired? you cant exactly say that neither, we havent seen Floyd in there like that at welter against a young welterweight who out weighed him by 14 pounds.
do me a favor, since your so confident that Floyd was dominating and that had the cheap shot not happend, show me a fight at welter in which Mayweather was fighting at that pace.
You cant find one, and after a 16 month lay off against a kid 10 years younger, this fight was headed to be a fight

if the fight had continued, ortiz wouldve been down a full headbutt point against mayweather, besides all the rounds scored against him... the kid didnt have a unanimous round scored for him did he? no, floyd did... out of 4 rounds... thats 25% percent unanimously off the bat, without the point deduction going into round 5 which would undoubtedly make it a minumum of 50% percent of points for mayweather at the moment of stoppage LOL... if ortiz got up, count the knockdown against him


with a swelling eye, and no more use of headbutts, hed have to be careful leading with his head which is all he was doing to get inside and land a rabbit punch etc



yeah it was gonna be a fight, for maybe 3 or 4 more rounds and then the kid would have had to start deteriorating rapidly... round 3 was a boxing exhibition and round 4 especially at the end, mayweather was toying with the kid and doing anything he wanted... comfortable enough that he threw an uppercut that hed landed a whole bunch of times and didnt even expect the last flurry ortiz partially landed


and that 'partially' that he barely got to land at the END of the round, was probably what took him over the edge into leaping with that headbutt



no te engaņes ... el negro este tenia la cosa en el bolsillo

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Im mainly talking about Floyd fights

Ever since De La Hoya

So your claiming they are harsh on Mayweather or over crtical of him? they do that to just about every fighter, I mean when the Klitschkos were quitting and getting knocked out by Brewster and Sanders they were even critical of them.

Every fighter when they reach a certain point receives that **** from them not just Floyd. dont be so sensitive about it, thats their job to be honest. Their job is to ask questions, questions you may not want to hear, their job is to voice an opinion, or their thoughts, some that you may not agree with.

if they sat there and ****** every fighters ****, it would make for a boring broadcast wouldnt it?