Comments Thread For: Roach: Mayweather is Slowing Down, More Hittable Now

[Carpe Diem]

u cant expect ppl not to call u out if ur gonna sit here cand call floyd a flat footed fighter. i dont think u understand what the term means. he wasnt hopping on his feet, but he was far from flat footed. he was spacing ortiz very well. and he was using his footwork to do it. a flat footed fighter cant do that. now u go on and call me a floyd fanboy. mebbe i am, but i kno that if ur calling him flat footed, ur not making much sense.

I'm glad most of you are starting to see it this way as well. They make it sound like Floyd is leading his upper body forward when he stood flat on his feet at times. They just can't see the spacing he kept for himself to measured his opponents reaching range.

[Carpe Diem]

Just look at the difference of how Cotto and Margarito positioned their upper body in front of Manny compared to how Floyd positioned his upper body against Ortiz. Cotto and Margarito made it more easier for Manny to hit them because they kept their upper body in the same leaned forward stance with their heads pushed out straight forward. It made it more easier for Manny to easily sneaked in his straight left hand and still be in balance to changes direction.

Floyd keep his head and torso in a lean backward stance position where he can easily roll back with the straight left with it having a lesser effect compare to the higher degree of effect it would make if he were to position his torso in a more straight forward position.

[D4thincarnation]

Just counted round 11 of Clottey vs Pacquiao, I counted 115 punches thrown by Pacquiao, compubox say 117. I think I may have missed a couple.

When Pacquiao starts throwing combos you can hardly keep up, those compubox guys do a great job in counting the punches thrown.

[Cash Cow]

In 2 fights vs Juan Manuel Marquez, Manny Pacquiao landed a total of 148 punches in the first fight while throwing 639 punches.

In their 2nd fight Pacman threw 619 punches and only landed 157 punches.

Floyd Mayweather threw 493 punches and landed 290!. Mayweather almost landed double the amount of shots on Marquez in one fight than Pac did in 24 rounds.

The GAP in skill level is clearly apparent


Notice the superb technician JMM....



Notice how Marquez looks like a novice...

Manny Pacquiao in 2 fights and a total of 24 rounds threw 1258 punches. He ONLY landed 305 punches in 24 rounds.

Mayweather landed 290 punches in (1 fight) ONLY 15 less than Manny( in 2 fights) & he threw 765 less punches.

[D4thincarnation]

Just look at the difference of how Cotto and Margarito positioned their upper body in front of Manny compared to how Floyd positioned his upper body against Ortiz. Cotto and Margarito made it more easier for Manny to hit them because they kept their upper body in the same leaned forward stance with their heads pushed out straight forward. It made it more easier for Manny to easily sneaked in his straight left hand and still be in balance to changes direction.

And look how slow sluggish Ortiz's punches and footwork are. Manny is a different aninmal.

When Floyd throw the right, he stick his chin out, very open to the left hook, Manny has the footwork and handspeed to land it.

[D4thincarnation]

In 2 fights vs Juan Manuel Marquez, Manny Pacquiao landed a total of 148 punches in the first fight while throwing 639 punches.

In their 2nd fight Pacman threw 619 punches and only landed 157 punches.

Floyd Mayweather threw 493 punches and landed 290!. Mayweather almost landed double the amount of shots on Marquez in one fight than Pac did in 24 rounds.

The GAP in skill level is clearly apparent


Notice the superb technician JMM....



Notice how Marquez looks like a novice...

Manny Pacquiao in 2 fights and a total of 24 rounds threw 1258 punches. He ONLY landed 305 punches in 24 rounds.

Mayweather landed 290 punches in (1 fight) ONLY 15 less than Manny( in 2 fights) & he threw 765 less punches.

Now compare the Hatton, Mosley and De La Hoya fights.

[Carpe Diem]

And look how slow sluggish Ortiz's punches and footwork are. Manny is a different aninmal.

When Floyd throw the right, he stick his chin out, very open to the left hook, Manny has the footwork and handspeed to land it.

Manny is a different animal with a smaller reach than Ortiz, Floyd would find a way to limit Manny's punches reach range by using proper spacing. Manny would land his straight left hand effectively, but don't act like Floyd would be a sitting duck like Margarito and Oscar were and letting him landing it consistently throughout the fight.

[D4thincarnation]

Manny is a different animal with a smaller reach than Ortiz, Floyd would find a way to limit Manny's punches reach range by using proper spacing. Manny would land his straight left hand effectively, but don't act like Floyd would be a sitting duck like Margarito and Oscar were and letting him landing it consistently throughout the fight.

Manny is controlling the footwork, he has the faster feet. Manny will control the range and the fight.

When Floyd throws, when any fighter throws they are open.

Floyd is well conditioned but Manny will take him out of his comfort zone and make him fight at a pace he is not use to.

Can't see how Floyd wins this one.

[Cash Cow]

Now compare the Hatton, Mosley and De La Hoya fights.

[iNDOLiFER]

How u gonna compare PAC vs jmm 1-2 to floyd's vs jmm? Both fought at different weight and how long ago was the PAC vs jmm 1-2? If u wanna compare wait until nov.12 then compare pac's punch stats with Floyd against jmm.