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  • Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
    thats the rub for most fans that think pac is using peds. if you look at the history of boxing, when a fighter moves up in wt his ko% drops off. pacs has not. when a boxer goes up in wt his speed also drops. pac walking through cotto shots(cottos left hook is quit formidable) gave a lot of people pause. there is reason to suspect ped usage. and ducking the test are reason to be su****ious. and someone posted pac gets random test. thats not true. he wanted to know when they would administer the drug test. to me thats suspect. thats just my opinion i welcome any opposing view. i would love a logical debate. not just fan love.
    GREAT POST !!

    It is absurd to hear Manny's fanboys falling over themselves making whiney excuses to save pacroid from having to take a completely harmless blood test

    FACT: If Pac would undertake a completely harmless blood test half of you "boxing fans" would be out of a job

    What would you do ?

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    • Originally posted by BoZz View Post
      floyd took the test pac didn't so............
      EXACTLY !!

      Aside from beating his third consecutive opponent that Pacquiao had already ducked, Mayweather will take the test.

      There is simply no comparison between the two.

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        • Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
          thats the rub for most fans that think pac is using peds. if you look at the history of boxing, when a fighter moves up in wt his ko% drops off. pacs has not. when a boxer goes up in wt his speed also drops. pac walking through cotto shots(cottos left hook is quit formidable) gave a lot of people pause. there is reason to suspect ped usage. and ducking the test are reason to be su****ious. and someone posted pac gets random test. thats not true. he wanted to know when they would administer the drug test. to me thats suspect. thats just my opinion i welcome any opposing view. i would love a logical debate. not just fan love.
          Your logic makes sense, but numbers don't lie. In Pacs last 10-12 fights starting with Ledwaba (130 lb title fight), he has weighed between 142-148. His weight hasn't gone up. Does he have a sturdy beard? Sure! Logic also shows that heavier weight (less draining) gives you a little bit more endurance. Has he fought at catch weights? Sure...but some of those were because his trainer feared he could overstep his limit. I agree that Pac not taking the first test was bad for the situation but you have to remember how it all came about. From a baseless accusation. At the end of the day, discrediting his body of work or Floyd's is wrong. They are great polar extremes of boxing and its great to have the choice. I hope they fight. Happy posting!

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          • Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
            floyd started at 130 check it out.
            Floyd started at 130 as a professional but 106 as an amateur.

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            • Originally posted by rntolent View Post
              Your logic makes sense, but numbers don't lie. In Pacs last 10-12 fights starting with Ledwaba (130 lb title fight), he has weighed between 142-148. His weight hasn't gone up. Does he have a sturdy beard? Sure! Logic also shows that heavier weight (less draining) gives you a little bit more endurance. Has he fought at catch weights? Sure...but some of those were because his trainer feared he could overstep his limit. I agree that Pac not taking the first test was bad for the situation but you have to remember how it all came about. From a baseless accusation. At the end of the day, discrediting his body of work or Floyd's is wrong. They are great polar extremes of boxing and its great to have the choice. I hope they fight. Happy posting!
              The bottom line is, refusing random blood tests is completely unjustifiable, and Mannys 8 ridiculous excuses were absurd.

              During the Marquez fight Pacquiao looked (according to the commentators) "faded", like he had been in "too many wars"..... but a few months later during the Diaz fight..... "revitalised", like a new fighter"..... "unbelievable"..... and Manny Steward said he had never seen anyone go up in weight and look so ripped without losing their speed..... well, he has jumped another 3 divisions since then

              We just want to know how the "new" and "improved" Pac did it?

              FACT: Blood tests are completely harmless.

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              • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
                The bottom line is, refusing random blood tests is completely unjustifiable, and Mannys 8 ridiculous excuses were absurd.

                During the Marquez fight Pacquiao looked (according to the commentators) "faded", like he had been in "too many wars"..... but a few months later during the Diaz fight..... "revitalised", like a new fighter"..... "unbelievable"..... and Manny Steward said he had never seen anyone go up in weight and look so ripped without losing their speed..... well, he has jumped another 3 divisions since then

                We just want to know how the "new" and "improved" Pac did it?

                FACT: Blood tests are completely harmless.
                Believe me, I see your point. But jumping weight divisions isn't the same as jumping weight. My point is, the argument that he must be on something because he increased weight so quickly doesn't hold water if he has weighed almost the same on fight night at 130, 135, 140, 147 and 154 (150)lb weight divisions. Pacquiao virtually weighed the same from Diaz to Margarito, the difference being the pre-fight weigh in. He drained less. Does that mean it makes him perform better? Of course not, skill is a big part of that. Does it mean his speed is more? Of course not and there is no measure for it, especially if it is the human eye. Does it mean he hits harder? Maybe, but a precisely timed punch has more of an effect than one seen from a mile away and Pacquiao of late is more known for that.
                That being said, he has to take the test to fight Floyd. I think if Floyd fights the right fight he wins, and if Pacquiao finds Floyd he wins. I also think that presuming Pacquiao is guilty of something is useless when prior to Floyd accusing him, Floyd himself could have been on something.
                The whole world can speculate all it wants that Manny takes this and Floyd is scared, it doesn't make the fight happen. Bob Arum (not Pacquiao) and Money May make the boxing world go round, Pacquiao just does his job. Lets hope the latter two can at least agree they need each other and Bob sees that he may not live to collect the profit from this fight.

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                • Originally posted by BoZz View Post
                  floyd took the test pac didn't so............
                  how come *****s are illiterate???

                  wifebeater's tests are worthless because wifebeater could've been cycling PEDs while he was on vacation... ****in dumb azzes.

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                  • Originally posted by mannyfresh209 View Post
                    Conte has no idea what he's talking about, or he's trying to stir up controversy. Mayweather, before the Ortiz fight had something like a 15% KO/TKO rate at Welterweight.

                    Before being a Welterweight, he was at 70%. So, with weight, Mayweather lost power.

                    Pacquiao I honestly don't know the numbers, but I'm sure it's more or less the same.
                    Ever heard of this thing called PEDs?

                    It makes fighters bones get brittle.

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                    • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
                      The bottom line is, refusing random blood tests is completely unjustifiable, and Mannys 8 ridiculous excuses were absurd.

                      During the Marquez fight Pacquiao looked (according to the commentators) "faded", like he had been in "too many wars"..... but a few months later during the Diaz fight..... "revitalised", like a new fighter"..... "unbelievable"..... and Manny Steward said he had never seen anyone go up in weight and look so ripped without losing their speed..... well, he has jumped another 3 divisions since then

                      We just want to know how the "new" and "improved" Pac did it?

                      FACT: Blood tests are completely harmless.
                      Your crying and whining ass still hasn't explained what commission these requests came from.

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