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  • Originally posted by supremelygifted View Post
    Not exactly true my friend. Let us not forget the first round of negotiations. Pac refused. Then in the second round, Floyd gave a time table and Pac wanted testing with limits. It was only AFTER negotiations broke off that Pac said he would. to my knowledge that is only recently like the last 6 months. Please if you or anyone respond to this post, explain why would he refuse in the first place if he had nothing to hide? I'm not trying to get into a debate with *****s or *******s either. That is a legitimate question.
    Which came first, Floyds derogatory remark on Manny accusing him of using peds or the first round of negotiation? If the derogatory remark came first, that would explain a lot. I mean, would you listen to a person who had just accused you of doing something you did not do? One poster mentioned that Manny has pride too. I agree.

    If the first negotiation came first, that wouldn't mean Manny is or was on peds because it could also mean that Manny refuses to give Floyd power to dictate to him and rather listen to the commissioner instead. But as the first negotiation failed, compounded with the failure of second negotiation, Manny started to relax and agree to some of Floyds terms.

    Now, one poster said he does not believe Floyd or Manny are on peds. I agree. I say, innocent until proven otherwise. I give Manny's success in moving up in weight to Manny himself for hiring the best trainers.... Alex Ariza for the weight gain and conditioning and Freddie Roach for improvement in techniques and coming up with good fight plans. It is not peds folks. It is hard work, discipline, and dedication.

    The bottom line is, Manny have been taking random drug testing in the past. Just not within certain time with valid reasons whether you like it or not. After all, I don't think Floyd had ever given blood sample within a week of the fight during his professional boxing career. If he has not, then why is that? Probably same reason Manny has.

    Ones again, Manny has been tested numerous times Just like Floyd have, and both have been clean so far except for that xylocaine thing that Floyd supposedly had taken. I am not sure if that would fall under illegal drug.

    INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, FOLKS!

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    • Floyd and pac at age 16 = 106 lbs FACT
      Pac dehydrated like hell when he was fighting at the lower weight classes, floyd barely dehydrates and fights at/near/even below his weighed in weight.
      Pac vs Morales 3 (2006)- Pac weighed in at 129 rehydrated back up to 144 lbs at fight night FACT
      Floyd vs Judah (2006) - Floyd weighed in 146 and fought at that same weight FACT
      Pac vs Marquez 2 (2008) - Pac weighed in at 129 rehydrated back up to 145 lbs at fight night FACT
      Pac vs Margarito (2010) - Pac weighed in at 144.6 rehydrated back up to 148 FACT
      Floyd vs Ortiz (2011) - Floyd weighed in at 146.5 rehydrated back up to 150

      Pac and Floyd are about the same weight

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      • Originally posted by Leohappy View Post
        this article was written by a pac fan. did you really expect him to say anything different? and he is friends with ronnie n???????

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        • Conte has no idea what he's talking about, or he's trying to stir up controversy. Mayweather, before the Ortiz fight had something like a 15% KO/TKO rate at Welterweight.

          Before being a Welterweight, he was at 70%. So, with weight, Mayweather lost power.

          Pacquiao I honestly don't know the numbers, but I'm sure it's more or less the same.

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          • Originally posted by mannyfresh209 View Post
            Conte has no idea what he's talking about, or he's trying to stir up controversy. Mayweather, before the Ortiz fight had something like a 15% KO/TKO rate at Welterweight.

            Before being a Welterweight, he was at 70%. So, with weight, Mayweather lost power.

            Pacquiao I honestly don't know the numbers, but I'm sure it's more or less the same.
            thats the rub for most fans that think pac is using peds. if you look at the history of boxing, when a fighter moves up in wt his ko% drops off. pacs has not. when a boxer goes up in wt his speed also drops. pac walking through cotto shots(cottos left hook is quit formidable) gave a lot of people pause. there is reason to suspect ped usage. and ducking the test are reason to be su****ious. and someone posted pac gets random test. thats not true. he wanted to know when they would administer the drug test. to me thats suspect. thats just my opinion i welcome any opposing view. i would love a logical debate. not just fan love.

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            • well hopkins is still winning at his late age?
              isnt that su****ious ????

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              • Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                pac is always in terrific shape way before ariza. and he hasn't gotten faster. if anything he has been successful at maintaining his speed while moving up in weight. also duran wasn't fat and slow at welterweight lol. watch his fight against carlos palomino and his first fight against leonard. he wasn't as fast as he was as a lightweight but he wasn't a very slow welterweight either.
                That user stated that Duran gained over 40 lbs.

                BULL**** !!

                Duran did not gain over 40lbs to fight at welter.

                And he DID look fat and slow at MW.

                And like you pointed out, Duran (naturally) lost speed as he moved up, Manny has not.

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                • floyd took the test pac didn't so............

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                  • Originally posted by Ugh! View Post
                    ray robinson(in his very peak)
                    went from 147 to 153 in one month
                    add another month, if he wanted you think he could've gained an extra 6? maybe a little slower but im certain he could
                    now fill'em up with the protien shakes they have nowadays, golden

                    rocky marciano another, gained 7 lb's of muscle in one month, some protien shakes and 9 months, golden

                    muhammad ali also gained 6lbs in one month

                    but here you are, trippin, because manny pacquiao put on 5lb's in 3 months, then 8lb's in 6 months?

                    roy jones put on 19lb's in 6 months, nothing to compare
                    Dude..... weight gain DOES NOT = muscle.

                    Pacquiao was MORE ripped at welter than he was at 130, and just as fast.

                    Anyone can put on weight man, we are talking muscle.

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                    • oh yea i forgot..USADA no good...he doesn't trust Americans

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