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  • #91
    Originally posted by arraamis View Post
    ^^^THIS^^^

    Totally agree, When did Victor Conte become the oracle ?????

    He goes from interview to interview spewing theories and conjecture with no concrete evidence to support his claims and the mindless droves just suck it up like a sponge, because he's a criminal ex-druggist.

    Conte is smart, I'll give him that, but no one wants him spearheading any new regiment of testing in boxing. Which is the purpose of all these interviews and off-the-wall comments -- Conte wants the job of implementing broad testing of athletes in boxing.

    Just because you have a history of successfully robbing banks and defeating high security systems, doesn't make you a Financial Wall Street Wizard.
    Yup, this. I was really shocked when Lampley even mentioned Conte's name on HBO before Berto/Zavek. They certainly didn't treat his name like that of a disgraced pariah, they made him sound like some kind of re-emerging guru.

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    • #92
      "Su****ious?" Wow! I'm su****ious of this person not being an authority on this subject matter. Period.

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      • #93
        It was either Merchant or Lampley that stated during the Floyd-Ortiz fight that at the lower weights, Floyd's KO % was 70%... and since he's moved up it's only been 17% ..... those have to be some of the worse peds EVER!!

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Ugh! View Post
          sugar ray robinson gained over 30lb's
          thomas hearns gained gained over 30lb's
          roberto duran gained over 40lb's
          ezzard charles gained over 50lb's during his career

          all before any of them got fat, all in top shape
          off the top of my head
          1) Negative. Duran looked soft when he moved up to jr middle-- ***19 lbs*** out of his original weight.
          2) The other 3 began there careers 50% bigger than Pac began his career so the weight gain wouldn't be near the same %.
          3) Can you provide pics of Robinson in a fight @ 30+ lbs from his original weight?

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          • #95
            Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
            so? whether amateur or professional, he STILL started at 106.

            how do you know floyd lost power and speed? sure, his reflexes aren't what they used to be, but guess what? that comes with age.

            as for Pac's speed, you obviously didn't watch his earlier fights when he was younger. He's waaaay faster then than he is now.

            only difference is that Pac's opponents are much bigger and proportionately slower than his previous opponents and thus make him LOOK faster by comparison.
            You say that Mayweather is as fast now as he was when he was at SFW, and that Pacquiao has lost speed since moving up?

            FKN RUBBISH, you just made that **** up.

            Provide one ounce of proof for either of those assertions.

            You dishonest flag-waving fanboi's are a joke.

            You should not be here, and you should not be making categorical assertions about Mayweather, because you have clearly never watched any of his older fights. He was definitely quicker at SFW.

            And I want you to provide one ounce of proof that Manny has lost any speed. Go look on YouTube, search for " Pacquiao speed ", and look at the date the video was uploaded.

            You just made up a WHOLE BIG PILE of rubbish in order to idolise Manny and bash the other guy

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            • #96
              Originally posted by TheMexHurricane View Post
              1) Negative. Duran looked soft when he moved up to jr middle-- ***19 lbs*** out of his original weight.
              2) The other 3 began there careers 50% bigger than Pac began his career so the weight gain wouldn't be near the same %.
              3) Can you provide pics of Robinson in a fight @ 30+ lbs from his original weight?
              Lots are su****ious of a guy that ducks a PEDS test like the plague and then moves through the divisions in less than a year , when before taking his new elixir he was KOed by bums and has hit the canvas many times ,

              What is the character of a guy that must CW his opponents to get an advantage and then for good measure put them in 26 ft rings with unofficial gloves , I can see where that kind of person would have no problems using PEDS to put the last nail in the coffin , Since his honorable LW days he has turned into a habitual cheat , now he CWs JMM sheeeeees .

              “Is it su****ious the way (Pacquiao) has gained so much lean muscle mass while retaining and even seemingly improving his power and speed? Yes,” Conte says. “It is highly su****ious. , to the standard urine testing that, in my opinion, is worthless.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
                assuming both Pac and floyd are juicing, it simply means floyd is willing to subject himself to tests he already knows he can easily beat since he'd be juicing BEFORE the testing period of two months that he demanded. (as conte alleges)

                that makes floyd no better than Pac (assuming they're BOTH juicing) and you dumb enough to fall for that simple cheap parlor trick.
                Then why did Pacquiao refuse the test ?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                  from 2007 (his second fight with barrera) to 2011 (his last fight with mosley) pac only really went up 15 or 16 lbs.
                  Pacquiao gained 13lbs of muscle in 9 months while moving through 3 divisions.

                  UNHEARD OF !!

                  Except for Roy Jones Jnr who only exceeded Manny's recorded weight gain by 1lb, but he ended up at heavyweight and used steroids to get there.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                    thats 15lbs you said 17lbs earlier. pac weighed 129 against marquez and more than a year later he weighed 144 against cotto. pac's last fight before cotto was against hatton and he weighed 138. so from 138 to 144 is 6 pounds. he fought hatton in may of 09 and fought cotto in november of 09. so pac gained 6 pounds in 7 months. also pac weighed 142 when he fought DLH not the full 147.
                    STOPPIT KID !!

                    From March 2008, to December 2008 - immediately after hooking up with Alex Ariza - Pacquiao put on 13lbs of muscle while moving through 3 divisions in just under 9 months

                    If you knew the slightest thing about boxing, you would know that is unheard of.

                    As were Pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid the random blood tests.

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                    • Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                      roberto duran apparently went from 134 to 151 in 8 months; that's 17lbs.
                      Duran was fat and slow, Pacquiao was ripped and faster.

                      But I guess you wouldnt be aware of that, would ya ?

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