Just watched the full Floyd/Ortiz fight for the 1st time

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  • Johnwoo8686
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    #51
    Originally posted by Clutch93
    This x100

    Everyone seems to be completely ignoring the fact that Ortiz was clearly gaining momentum when he realized he could walk through floyds best shots. Even moreso that nearly anytime Ortiz wanted mayweather against the ropes...he got him there. He was smiling and imo, was suprised at how easily he got floyd against the ropes when he actually tried. Not only that, but Ortiz's money shot, his right hook, was clearly going over the top of mayweathers shoulder and catching him in the temple.

    Floyds losing his legs and he knows it, there's a reason he made that comment in the post-conference about everyone asking him to fight these guys when hes 34 and not when he was 24. This new stand-in-front philly shell style the entire fight is nowhere near as effective as his philly shell +high guard back in his lightweight days. Hes going to continue to get caught using this style for an entire fight. The philly shell isn't full-proof, shots go over the top of his left shoulder and there's no protection for that sensitive temple of his. If he doesn't adjust to that (which at this point I don't see how he could), hes going to get caught with a hard right hook against Pacquiao. Best believe that.
    I watched that round over and over again and NO Ortiz didn't have Floyd. Every time Ortiz would throw Mayweather would simply back away. Many of Ortiz's punches were hitting Mayweathers arms and shoulders and out of frustration Ortiz threw the Infamous headbutt. Even if Ortiz developed momentum in that round he would've lost it due to the one point deduction.

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    • viperz007
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      #52
      Originally posted by OralLepercy
      your a fool for agreeing with the video, first thing is the video is heavily edited, dude went as far as to make it black and white. second he puts almost everything in slow motion and only add parts he deems as necessary
      to break a fight down you have to show full rounds not parts, full rounds. his
      hate is to much for me to take him seriously.
      come on now the true purpose of that vid is to show that ortiz wasnt missing like the way u d!ckridding fans said so
      thats the reason why the vid was slow motioned for the blinded fans from floyds cam like u to see

      fight wasnt dominating as wat his d!ckridding fans(u included) claimed it was

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      • BattleAxePurist
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        #53
        2nd time around it didn't seem to be as one-sided as initially thought but floyd was still winning and was in control especially when the fight took place in the center of the ring.

        He did catch a few clean shots and did back up to the ropes at times and just defend which is were ortiz seemed to play right into his hands by not attacking the body more when floyd is defensive you have slim chances of actually hitting him so you have to hit the target that doesn't move. But it showed volume punching whether you hit or miss is the way to attack even though floyd fought at a faster pace than normal he still only throws single shots quick accurate shots but there are possibe counter opportunities if you're willing and able to.

        He doesn't have the same bounce in his step and fights much more flat-footed at this point but his reflexes still seem to be sharp

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        • -Kev-
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          #54
          Originally posted by MANIAC310
          your whole profile leads me to believe you have a bias infavor of Floyd.
          As an unbiased experienced fan I will say the fight was even but Floyd was in charge just not ahead.
          Floyd was ahead at least 3 to 1, don't be an idiot Mexican. And you are not experienced, stop lying. It is annoying now.

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            #55
            Originally posted by viperz007
            come on now the true purpose of that vid is to show that ortiz wasnt missing like the way u d!ckridding fans said so
            thats the reason why the vid was slow motioned for the blinded fans from floyds cam like u to see

            fight wasnt dominating as wat his d!ckridding fans(u included) claimed it was
            He was the video didn't so that though, to form a solid argument you have to give alitttle to te other side. What he should of did was say yeah ortiz missed some shots, but he landed alot more than he missed.9show footage to support your theory). the punches he showed where floyd was on the ropes were rolled and partially blocked. In the video the creator credited ortiz with a bunch of shots behind the head and also smothered punches. About the elbows, Floyd creates space to counter with his elbow, he also used it to block the right jab of ortiz. The video is flawed. Ortiz used his head from bell 1 and when he realized floyd wasn't complaining he tried to hit him harder with it.

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            • -Kev-
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              #56
              Originally posted by -Top Rank-
              I didn't see a dominate performance like most people try to claim. Vic missed a lot of punches, but so did Floyd.
              Lol, Floyd landed at 35% total punches, and at 50% power punches. To Ortiz 19% total punches, and 22% power punches.

              61 out of 125 power punches. That's insane accuracy. How can you "miss a lot" of punches, when you land at 50% power punches?

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              • Khalid X
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                #57
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                Lol, Floyd landed at 35% total punches, and at 50% power punches. To Ortiz 19% total punches, and 22% power punches.

                61 out of 125 power punches. That's insane accuracy. How can you "miss a lot" of punches, when you land at 50% power punches?
                Maybe because compubox is very inaccurate.

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                • Kagami Taiga
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                  Maybe because compubox is very inaccurate.
                  it may be, but its clear who landed the better, more telling blows.

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                  • Champ Is Here
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                    I watched that round over and over again and NO Ortiz didn't have Floyd. Every time Ortiz would throw Mayweather would simply back away. Many of Ortiz's punches were hitting Mayweathers arms and shoulders and out of frustration Ortiz threw the Infamous headbutt. Even if Ortiz developed momentum in that round he would've lost it due to the one point deduction.
                    You're wrong

                    Ortiz punches hit May face so he decided to head butt to cause more damage....

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                    • viperz007
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by OralLepercy
                      He was the video didn't so that though, to form a solid argument you have to give alitttle to te other side. What he should of did was say yeah ortiz missed some shots, but he landed alot more than he missed.9show footage to support your theory). the punches he showed where floyd was on the ropes were rolled and partially blocked. In the video the creator credited ortiz with a bunch of shots behind the head and also smothered punches. About the elbows, Floyd creates space to counter with his elbow, he also used it to block the right jab of ortiz. The video is flawed. Ortiz used his head from bell 1 and when he realized floyd wasn't complaining he tried to hit him harder with it.

                      mosley disagree with ur post

                      did u meant he uses it as a counter to the oponents face?

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