Name Euro fighters who were not frauds

[Drunk Punch]

Ok mine all were all Brits- or Canadian Brits. I think Kesselr is decent and also Ottke, and probably top of the tree are the Klitschkos.

[TouchyAndalou]

Not when your level of opposition is made up of other Eurofrauds.

Poet

Johnson, Dirrell, Taylor and Pascal aren't Eurofrauds, obviously.

[goblin213]

Yuri Arbachakov

[RubenSonny]

Johnson, Dirrell, Taylor and Pascal aren't Eurofrauds, obviously.

He doesn't deserve credit for beating Johnson, he didn't deserve to win against Dirrell and Taylor and Pascal were both highly overrated.

[Poet682006]

Johnson, Dirrell, Taylor and Pascal aren't Eurofrauds, obviously.

Glenn Johnson was well past it, Taylor is well known to gas in the late rounds and made his name from beating a well past-it Hopkins, Pascal is a Canafraud, and everyone not a ****** knows Dirrell beat Croch. Yeah, that's a real murderer's row there Chief.

Poet

[D4thincarnation]

Glenn Johnson was well past it, Taylor is well known to gas in the late rounds and made his name from beating a well past-it Hopkins, Pascal is a Canafraud, and everyone not a ****** knows Dirrell beat Croch. Yeah, that's a real murderer's row there Chief.

Poet

Never knew in America they think boxing is running away and falling down.

Past it Glenn Johson still better all but one American SMs

Taylor beat Hopkins who aftwards had the best wins of his career.

And Pascal beat not so bad Chad.

[Everywhere]

Never knew in America they think boxing is running away and falling down.

Past it Glenn Johson still better all but one American SMs

Taylor beat Hopkins who aftwards had the best wins of his career.

And Pascal beat not so bad Chad.

Jabs don't count in boxing.

[SirTomJones]

'frauds' what a ****** term.

[TouchyAndalou]

Glenn Johnson was well past it, Taylor is well known to gas in the late rounds and made his name from beating a well past-it Hopkins, Pascal is a Canafraud, and everyone not a ****** knows Dirrell beat Croch.

Poet

I scored the fight for Dirrell, albeit marginally. I know a lot of people who did. But most of those people tend to admit that it was a close fight, and think Dirrell won by at most one or two rounds. So Froch was hardly exposed in that fight, win or lose.

Glenn Johnson is past his best, but still a good opponent. Outside of the very top guys (Hopkins, Dawson, Ward, perhaps Bute) he'll give anybody at 175 or 168 a tough night (read: Tavoris Cloud) and Froch beat him handily.

Taylor's propensity to gas late on doesn't render a victory over him entirety meaningless. And I'd dispute your claim that Hopkins was well past it at the time of their fights. Anything Hopkins has lost in terms of athleticism over the course of his career (and he was never a particularly athletic fighter, at any rate) he's made up for in guile and ring savvy.

Pascal is similar to Froch in that in many ways he's a limited fighter, but let's not ignore that after losing to Froch he went to beat an excellent fighter in Chad Dawson. He also presented significant problems to Hopkins in their first fight, at least early on. So, another decent win for Froch.

Add Kessler and Abraham to the list and it's clear that Froch's level of opposition has been very solid.

Yeah, that's a real murderer's row there Chief.

Poet

It's arguably the toughest run of opponents any active fighter has faced back to back over the last few years. I can pick apart any other fighter's resume the way you have done, where they've fought fighters coming off losses, not at their natural weight, having been previously stopped, et al. The point is that Froch has consistently fought (and generally beaten) the top guys in his division, which isn't an easy thing to do regardless of any shortcomings they may have. Eurofrauds are guys with padded (usually undefeated) records who get badly exposed the minute they step up from European to world level. You know, unlike Froch.

[Poet682006]

Never knew in America they think boxing is running away and falling down.

You may not like it but Dirrell was scoring and Croch wasn't.

Past it Glenn Johson still better all but one American SMs

Shows how weak the division is.

Taylor beat Hopkins who aftwards had the best wins of his career.

Bull****. Hopkins best win was in 2001 against Felix Trinidad. The Hopkins of the past 7 years has to be carefully matched to win......typical for faded former greats.

And Pascal beat not so bad Chad.

Dawson made his name by beating the washed-up Tarver and Johnson.

Poet