Name Euro fighters who were not frauds

[NChristo]

Still kind of see the thread as kind of ****ty but may as well contribute some random names not mentioned.

Randy Turpin
Pete Sanstol
Jack Kid Berg
Johnny Famechon
Young Corbett III
Sumbu Kalambay
Jim Driscoll
Jimmy McLarnin and shame on everyone for not mentioning him yet, his nickname is even Toney's title

[New England]

Farl Croch is the poster boy for active Eurofrauds.

The only quality names on Hatton's resume are washed-up Tszyu and Castillo. Might as well beat up corpses.

Khan got KTFO in one round by a nobody and has never beaten a name fighter who wasn't washed-up.

i'm wondering why you think this way?


he's fought everybody. he ducked no fighters, which i generally consider the main characteristic of a eurofraud [along with staying at home and fighting domestically)
he had to fight his way out of europe before he could get to the top comp in the states. he took his time and didn't come over here until his 30's, but he still exposed himself to the best.

you cant fake your way through that. his last 3 years of opponents are the roughest in boxing.

he's no fraud,
he's just not going to beat andre ward and i thought he lost to dirrell as well.

and he's also going to get whipped by dawson and probably bute as well if they ever fight.

he is as advertised.

[StarshipTrooper]

lol

fair enough brother. your words not mine. i don't want the surgeon coming after me with a scalpel

i wish this was an NSB thread so two thousand limesters would come out of the woodwork calling us "fat yanks" and the like. i'm quite partial to those threads.

for quite some time now you have fought your way out of europe and not the other way around. this cant be overstated.

biggest europe-america upset of all time?

revolutionary war

I liken it to baseball: Europe and Canada are the minor leagues and the rest of the world are the big leagues. Occasionally a career minor-leaguer makes good in the bigs.

to use a term i loath "it is what it is."

That's my wife's favorite phrase lol :chuckle9:

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

i'm wondering why you think this way?


he's fought everybody. he ducked no fights.
he had to fight his way out of europe before he could get to the top comp in the states. he took his time and didn't come over here until his 30's, but he still exposed himself to the best.

you cant fake your way through that. his last 3 years of opponents are the roughest in boxing.

he's no fraud,
he's just not going to beat andre ward and i thought he lost to dirrell as well.

and he's also going to get whipped by dawson and probably bute as well if they ever fight.

he is as advertised.

He's the UK version of Arturo Gatti: A crude club fighter who will fight anyone and entertains but isn't good enough to play with the big boys. At the same time UK fans act like he's actually one of the big boys.....hence he's a fraud.

Poet

[rorymac]

He's the UK version of Arturo Gatti: A crude club fighter who will fight anyone and entertains but isn't good enough to play with the big boys. At the same time UK fans act like he's actually one of the big boys.....hence he's a fraud.

Poet

It is fair to say that Ricky is overrated by his domestic fans but definitely a step too far to call him a fraud. He was legitimate world champ at JWW and rated in the top 10 P4P by The Ring for a couple of years. He was blown out by Pacquiao (style mismatch) but he did give Floyd a tricky night. Hatton doesn't have any stellar wins to his name (the Tszyu fight was amazing at the time), but he is a good fighter who never ducked anyone, and a charismatic, decent person and a national sporting hero. He does not deserve to be called a fraud in my opinion.

[New England]

He's the UK version of Arturo Gatti: A crude club fighter who will fight anyone and entertains but isn't good enough to play with the big boys. At the same time UK fans act like he's actually one of the big boys.....hence he's a fraud.

Poet

ok thanks for the clarification on your stance

i'll say i disagree in that froch is very limited physically and i believe he's actually got some skills (or i don't think he'd be where he's at today.)
he does some stuff well. he's got a granite chin, very good stamina. mentally he's tough as **** and supremely confident. overrated puncher, but he does punch as hard in the 12th as he does in the first.
he won a bronze in the world AM championships in a non-olympic year

and gatti was very talented and had a good deal of boxing ability (good amateur as well) but until later in his career he was basically a slugger and all offense.




OO i got a great one

arthur abraham was a complete fraud. he got the super six and started racking up losses after knocking out jermain taylor's corpse
that i'm sure we can all agree on

he's a one trick pony if i ever saw one. unless you're going to stand there and punch with him he literally sucks.


what the hell was his trainer even thinking letting him develop a style like that (100% dependent on knocking your opponent out and an open book for a sound performance of boxing)

[StarshipTrooper]

ok thanks for the clarification on your stance

i'll say i disagree in that froch is very limited physically and i believe he's actually got some skills (or i don't think he'd be where he's at today.)
he does some stuff well. he's got a granite chin, very good stamina. mentally he's tough as **** and supremely confident. overrated puncher, but he does punch as hard in the 12th as he does in the first.
he won a bronze in the world AM championships in a non-olympic year

and gatti was very talented and had a good deal of boxing ability (good amateur as well) but until later in his career he was basically a slugger and all offense.




OO i got a great one

arthur abraham was a complete fraud. he got the super six and started racking up losses after knocking out jermain taylor's corpse
that i'm sure we can all agree on

he's a one trick pony if i ever saw one. unless you're going to stand there and punch with him he literally sucks.


what the hell was his trainer even thinking letting him develop a style like that (100% dependent on knocking your opponent out and an open book for a sound performance of boxing)

Abraham's non-effort against Ward was one of the most embarrassing performances I've ever seen in a title fight.

Poet

[New England]

Abraham's non-effort against Ward was one of the most embarrassing performances I've ever seen in a title fight.

Poet

what the hell his trainer was thinking teaching him to fight like that i'll never know.

for the record, i've never once been impressed with the schooling of a wegner fighter. not once. i'm huge on trainers generally, but i really don't care for wegner at all.

maybe i'm missing somebody.

[The Surgeon]

lol

fair enough brother. your words not mine. i don't want the surgeon coming after me with a scalpel

i wish this was an NSB thread so two thousand limesters would come out of the woodwork calling us "fat yanks" and the like. i'm quite partial to those threads.



for quite some time now you have fought your way out of europe and not the other way around. this cant be overstated. to use a term i loath "it is what it is."



biggest europe-america upset of all time?


revolutionary war





unrelated note, anybody catch the european 130 lb title fight on saturday?
one of the best dust ups i've seen all year.
gary sykes and gary buckland i believe?

maybe the best rematch of a 45 second fight ever ^^.


but you see the difference between the "world level" or more appropriately usually the top of the "american" level (fights in the states)
and the europeon and british domestic level


both of those guys would get horribly beat up by guys of their size over here (marquez, broner, gamboa, and of course brandon rios, would would swallow them whole)

Sykes vs Buckland was pretty badass, their first bout was on Prizefighter and wow what a KO by Buckland, 1st round i think!

Id have to agree tho in general the UK domestic scene and the europeon scene arent quite as good as "american" level. Still it dosnt matter if its two complete ham and eggers, if they are of a similar level then the fights can be classics. Some of the best fights ive seen have been domestic

[The Surgeon]

He's the UK version of Arturo Gatti: A crude club fighter who will fight anyone and entertains but isn't good enough to play with the big boys. At the same time UK fans act like he's actually one of the big boys.....hence he's a fraud.

Poet

Froch is tried and tested. I dont rate his skills too highly, he's painfully slow and his chin while solid is over rated but than man is no fraud. Froch worked his way up through the domestic and european scene before making his move against name American's at world level. He has paid his dues poet, he might not be great, i for one think S.O.G is gonna put a beating on him but Fraud is harsh for a man like Froch who comes to fight everytime out and ducks nobody. Gatti lost to all the good fighters, Froch has better wins than Arturo but i take the reference