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  • IronDanHamza
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    #51
    Originally posted by Bushbaby
    All the fighters I've named except for Jones has a better inside fight game than Khan. Berto actually started his pro career at 160. Khan got away with not having any inside fight skills because he was at 140. The bigger guys will bully his a$$ & get on the inside. Those were just examples to prove that weight matters.
    All of those fighters pretty much have as useless inside games as each other.

    Especially Berto, who has no inside game at all.

    What does weight matter to an inside game? You're acting like small fighters don't have an inside game.

    "Khan got away with not having any inside skills because he was at 140"

    What does that even mean?

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    • Bushbaby
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      #52
      [QUOTE=IronDanHamza;11196618]So what is it about then? If it's not about deserving what is it about?

      Who has the best chance of winning?

      If so, Bradley and Khan have much more chance than the likes of Jan Zaveck, Victor Ortiz, Andre Berto and Mike Jones.

      We don't even know how Mike Jones can perform against someone higher than bum level. And even then he is struggling witht he likes of Karass.

      Maybe Khan should move up and beat Henry Brusless and some other bm ranked 63rd in the weight class.

      Then is he a worthy opposition?

      It's about this, I asked him to explain in detail why Khan & Bradley are automatically better than any welterweight not named Floyd or Manny. I think Karass beat Jones the 1st time too.But Jones is rangy & taller than both Khan & Bradley. Since Khan doesn't fight well on the inside, he'd be stuck on the outside fighting a bigger fighter. Bradley, I actually give a fair chance of beating any welterweight not named Floyd or Manny, but I wouldn't act like it's a fact he would.
      Do you genuinely feel that Amir Khan couldn't go though Mike Jones resume undefeated?

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      • Bushbaby
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        #53
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        All of those fighters pretty much have as useless inside games as each other.

        Especially Berto, who has no inside game at all.

        What does weight matter to an inside game? You're acting like small fighters don't have an inside game.

        "Khan got away with not having any inside skills because he was at 140"

        What does that even mean?
        Khan got away with it because he's bigger & kept most of the 140lbers on the outside. At welterweight there are fighters that will walk through his power & get on the inside. Besides what the **** are you talking about Berto not having an inside game? He has 1 of the best uppercuts at welterweight & the uppercut is in fact an inside punch. Throwing an uppercut from distance is suicide. You should catch your breath spouting **** like that. Zavek showed good inside game vs Berto, as did Ortiz.

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          #54
          whether or not he deserves it is a question for floyd.
          khan definitely doesn't have enough experience yet. he hasn't beaten all the top dogs at 140, and he hasn't fought in 147 at all. 147 is quite a significant upgrade from 140 in terms of power. everybody will be interested to see how khan's chin holds up.
          the fight should happen in roughly two years, however since floyd has been running out of credible options, it will happen sooner.
          khan can say whatever he wants about his chances, but he is definitely a sucker for money. and that fight will be made because of money.

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          • RubenSonny
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            #55
            Originally posted by Bushbaby
            Khan got away with it because he's bigger & kept most of the 140lbers on the outside. At welterweight there are fighters that will walk through his power & get on the inside. Besides what the **** are you talking about Berto not having an inside game? He has 1 of the best uppercuts at welterweight & the uppercut is in fact an inside punch. Throwing an uppercut from distance is suicide. You should catch your breath spouting **** like that. Zavek showed good inside game vs Berto, as did Ortiz.
            You don't know what the **** your talking about.

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            • Shadows
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              #56
              I really don't care to see Floyd fight anyone at WW unless it's Pacquiao.

              Khan doesn't stand much of a chance, IMO.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Bushbaby
                Khan got away with it because he's bigger & kept most of the 140lbers on the outside. At welterweight there are fighters that will walk through his power & get on the inside. Besides what the **** are you talking about Berto not having an inside game? He has 1 of the best uppercuts at welterweight & the uppercut is in fact an inside punch. Throwing an uppercut from distance is suicide. You should catch your breath spouting **** like that. Zavek showed good inside game vs Berto, as did Ortiz.
                You don't know what the **** you are talking about.

                So according to you;

                Berto has a good inside game ()

                Jan Zaveck has a good chance of beating Floyd Mayweather ()

                And Victor Ortiz will beat Mayweather with simple pressure. Oh, but when he doesn't. The fight is fixed!!

                But seriously, Berto has no inside game. None, at all.

                Look at Roberto Duran if you want to see an inside game....Oh wait, he's below 160 so he can't have an inside game!

                Can you imagine if a Lightweight like Duran EVER tried to fight inside against a WW like Sugar Ray Leonard?!?! He's below 160 what the hell would he be thinking!?

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                • New England
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Bushbaby
                  Wow, here comes captainsaveahoe, tell me why Khan does better against Floyd or Manny than Mike Jones would.



                  mike jones?

                  a guy who went to war with jesus soto karass?

                  i like jones and soto karass, but you certainly cannot be serious


                  mike jones has big muscles and punches harder than khan. he's also taller.
                  he's showed a good chin too

                  thats all he does better

                  khan is essentially already a WW.
                  it's all about the weights when they walk into the ring healthy



                  khan should be mayweather's next opponent if floyd cant fight pacquiao

                  we'll see how they deal with each other's handspeed.

                  i think khan might tactually take a round or two early

                  of course eventually he'll end up eating punches when he slows down and floyd adjusts


                  and i don't think manny and khan will ever fight, but they've sparred a boatload dude
                  they are very much competitive with each other


                  conversely?

                  what the hell has mike jones done to deserve a shot at floyd or manny
                  what does he bring to the table?
                  and why would you assume he will do better than a proven quantity in amir khan


                  its 7 lbs, dude
                  at the top of the game for a big guy like khan its not nearly as significant as you seem to think it is.

                  floyd and manny are smaller than khan
                  he can only make jr WW now because he's young
                  he'll probably finish up as a jr mw.

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                  • New England
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by RubenSonny
                    You don't know what the **** your talking about.

                    lol

                    i didn't want to go there myself but i'm glad somebody did.


                    i was gonna offer him a shovel so he can keep diggin that hole for himself

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                    • E-Thug
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                      #60
                      He doesn't deserve it ... yet. Roach's just using Khan to fight Floyd to see how he fares against him since Khan and Pac have similiar handspeed. H'es using to gauge how Floyd V Manny would play it out and it wouldn't be pretty

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