Roach ''Mayweather Looked Terrible''

[americanbot]

I really think you guys underrate Pacquiao's offensive weapons...

Pacquiao is faster than Ortiz, he also has enough Power to make Mosley seat on the canevas and run (old or not, Mosley still has a strong chin) or to make strong and iron headed Clottey refuse to fight.

I always thought Ortiz had no chance to beat Floyd because he was too slow and totally unexperienced.

Ortiz wasn't ready, 24 years old, 2 losses, one title fight, and this fight was a joke.

Honnestly, Pac would crush Ortiz in 4 rounds, and this without sucka punches.

Marquez has pac number cuz he can fight in the inside better than anybody in that game. I don't think Floyd beat Manny toe to toe without at least TASTING once the canevas.

floyd wouldn't fight manny toe to toe......but he wouldn't run ether..........pacs offensive weapons are actually overrated. mayweather would stand right in front of pac & counter him repeatedly behind his shield (he'll throw many punches through out the fight while doing it too)

you have to remember that mosley knows little to nothing about countering effectively, using a jab, & moving.....& he still off set pacs volume. pac couldn't land a decent combination in that fight at all.........the key punch for mayweather against pac will be the jab. they will work mayweathers jab to death in training...........roger even said it before.

picture mayweather behind his shield throwing 4 & 5 accurate jabs at a time to pacs face & body. he'll then start to counter pac with power shots..........the key to beat a fighter like pac is a stiff smashing jab...........

can pac do better then ortiz?......it really depends............the reason i say this is because pacs reach is SO MUCH less then mayweathers when compared to ortiz. pac would have to run in without defense & reach upwards with his shots.........this alone takes a WOLAPE out of a fighter.

[BoZz]

shaky boy tell duckqiao to take the test ....or usada no good because no trust americans?

shaky boy also said bernard was done after the calzaghe fight

[jkaisen41]

Floyd is right, as a fighter he deserves more props, but his behaviour doesn't help, as a person, he doesn't.

He's a direspectfull as.s hole, I don't like him for that reason, I recognize he's an awesome athlete.

You can hate him that's ok but c'mon...

A Hall of Famer trainer calls a legal punch cheap - but wants to see headbutts???

I don't care if he likes him or not what is that?

[Froghead99]

It was a cheap shot.

This is a SPORT. We're not here to see Crackweather exploit the rules, we're not here to see blackie hit Ortiz with a suckerpunch. Thats BS. We're here for a fight.

Floyd cheated the fans, and doesn't give a ****. Because hes just an uncivilised jungle monkey.

[americanbot]

I Can tell you this, Victor had made Mayweather fight at a much higher pace than Floyd likes to operate at and he was touching the body, he was also making Floyd miss that left hook, Floyds jab wasnt really there, mostly that right hand and that right uppercut, Floyd was throwing more power punches early in the fight.

Why does this matter? We already know Victor can maintain a very high work rate, as proven in the fight with Berto, Floyd hasnt fought with a high work rate like this in years, by the fourth round Mayweather had already thrown 200 plus punches, there was still two thirds left in the fight.

I think Ortiz came with the right game plan, un fortunantly we didnt have an ideal ref in there to stay on top of things, However I beleive, that had this fight went into the later rounds, Floyd would fade, he would be forced to fight at a high work rate all teh way through and sooner or later he is going to have to lay off that gas pedal and conserve himself for the championship rounds.

basicly Mayweather was on track to throw 600 shots if it went all 12, whens the last time Floyd has had a high paced fight like that with someone who is actually hitting him back? its been a while..... a long while.

victor wasn't forcing mayweather to do much of anything, mayweather could have just moved & pot shotted vic if he wanted to. MAYWEATHER was the one who came out swinging away at ortiz..........in realty it was mayweather who was out to tko vic. mayweather has world class stamina.......he's solid for 12th straight rounds......ortiz eye was already swollen after 3 rounds & mayweather was looking to land some serious heat on victor........his face would have been smashed after 6 rounds & he would have quit. mayweather missed some of his blows because he was being aggressive & it was EARLY in the fight. did you read my comment? MAYWEATHER gets massively stronger & accurate as the fight goes on....3 early rounds (which round one was a "feel out round") isn't gonna cut it. even though victor is a QUICK QUICK starter he still lost almost every round & it was only about to get worse....

[Kagami Taiga]

its funny how ppl hate a guy so much they believe any negative thing reported about him.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

victor wasn't forcing mayweather to do much of anything, mayweather could have just moved & pot shotted vic if he wanted to. MAYWEATHER was the one who came out swinging away at ortiz..........in realty it was mayweather who was out to tko vic. mayweather has world class stamina.......he's solid for 12th straight rounds......ortiz eye was already swollen after 3 rounds & mayweather was looking to land some serious heat on victor........his face would have been smashed after 6 rounds & he would have quit. mayweather missed some of his blows because he was being aggressive & it was EARLY in the fight. did you read my comment? MAYWEATHER gets massively stronger & accurate as the fight goes on....3 early rounds (which round one was a "feel out round") isn't gonna cut it. even though victor is a QUICK QUICK starter he still lost almost every round & it was only about to get worse....

I dont care of Mayweather of old gets more accurated and stronger as the fight goes on, this version of Mayweather is a part time fighter at 34 years old of which in his last five fights none were set at the pace this was headed.
you can be accurate all you want, but if the man is still standing and comming for ya late in the fight, his chances do increase...
I do not for second second beleive that Floyd was on his way to taking over that fight, I beleive that Floyd took this opportunity Cortez gave him to find himself a way out of the fight, Victors body shots and though he didnt land as much as Mayweather did, those shots would have paid off in the sixth, seventh and eighth rounds.
we can debate here and you will argue that your side of the story is correct, we will never know simply because of the way the fight went down and how it ended.
Bottom line, nobody makes Floyd miss that left hook like that, south paw or not, and nobody takes away Floyds jab like that south paw or not...
Roach is 100% correct, Mayweather did not look good, and I agree with Pac, had the fight gone into the later rounds, Floyd would have had plenty of work cut out for him, he knew it which is why he threw the cheap shots.

[americanbot]

I dont care of Mayweather of old gets more accurated and stronger as the fight goes on, this version of Mayweather is a part time fighter at 34 years old of which in his last five fights none were set at the pace this was headed.
you can be accurate all you want, but if the man is still standing and comming for ya late in the fight, his chances do increase...
I do not for second second beleive that Floyd was on his way to taking over that fight, I beleive that Floyd took this opportunity Cortez gave him to find himself a way out of the fight, Victors body shots and though he didnt land as much as Mayweather did, those shots would have paid off in the sixth, seventh and eighth rounds.
we can debate here and you will argue that your side of the story is correct, we will never know simply because of the way the fight went down and how it ended.
Bottom line, nobody makes Floyd miss that left hook like that, south paw or not, and nobody takes away Floyds jab like that south paw or not...
Roach is 100% correct, Mayweather did not look good, and I agree with Pac, had the fight gone into the later rounds, Floyd would have had plenty of work cut out for him, he knew it which is why he threw the cheap shots.

THIS is when i stopped reading.......

BELIEVE WHAT YOU WILL................

[Kagami Taiga]

I dont care of Mayweather of old gets more accurated and stronger as the fight goes on, this version of Mayweather is a part time fighter at 34 years old of which in his last five fights none were set at the pace this was headed.
you can be accurate all you want, but if the man is still standing and comming for ya late in the fight, his chances do increase...
I do not for second second beleive that Floyd was on his way to taking over that fight, I beleive that Floyd took this opportunity Cortez gave him to find himself a way out of the fight, Victors body shots and though he didnt land as much as Mayweather did, those shots would have paid off in the sixth, seventh and eighth rounds.
we can debate here and you will argue that your side of the story is correct, we will never know simply because of the way the fight went down and how it ended.
Bottom line, nobody makes Floyd miss that left hook like that, south paw or not, and nobody takes away Floyds jab like that south paw or not...
Roach is 100% correct, Mayweather did not look good, and I agree with Pac, had the fight gone into the later rounds, Floyd would have had plenty of work cut out for him, he knew it which is why he threw the cheap shots.

dude, u make no sense.

[Johnwoo8686]

Yup he looked great in this video to

How manny times are you going to post that same video? Man, get a hobby or something. Plus even if Victor was looking good in that round the 1 point deduction would've negated that entirely.