Roach ''Mayweather Looked Terrible''

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  • bMak
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    #51
    Originally posted by Larryx2011
    Floyd looked great,just needs to remain active.amazingly he'd look a lot better
    This. Inactivity related issues I noticed:

    -Floyd being short on some punches

    -coming back up too quickly after rolling a punch and being grazed with a right

    -throwing his left hook haphazardly twice- which lead to the two sequences where Victor countered him with the right and put him on the defensive against the ropes.

    Granted, the right counters didn't land squarely and Floyd slipped, blocked or deflected most of the flurries that came after, but he's going to need to clean that left hook up.

    Overall, a very good performance and I believe he was going to get sharper as the fight went on.
    Last edited by bMak; 09-22-2011, 05:27 PM.

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    • americanbot
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      #52
      Originally posted by bMak
      This. Inactivity related issues I noticed:

      -Floyd being short on some punches

      -coming back up too quickly after rolling a punch and being grazed with a right

      -throwing his left hook haphazardly twice- which lead to the two sequences where Victor countered him with the right and put him on the defensive against the ropes.

      Granted, the right counters didn't land squarely and Floyd slipped, blocked or deflected most of the flurries that came after, but he's going to need to clean that left hook up.

      Overall, a very good performance and I believe he was going to get sharper as the fight went on.
      you really can't tell much of anything with only 3 early rounds..........

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      • MJ223
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        #53
        Originally posted by Perfect Plex
        From his weekly Boxing News UK Column. Some of HIS OWN quotes.

        -He says it was a cheap shot, but Ortiz was being to apologetic

        -He said Victor maybe should of even give Floyd another headbutt, he says thats how to beat Floyd take him out of his game & rough him up.

        -He said you could see Floyd crying & complaining but its a phyiscal game

        -He also says Manny & Khan both take him out
        This **** sound so ridiculous i cant believe it.

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        • RespekonMyName
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          #54
          Originally posted by Check_hooks
          Ortiz only headbutted when Floyd was leaning his head back over the top rope which is illegal.

          And floyd was throwing his elbow/forearm all fight and was ducking below Ortiz's waist multiple times.

          And there were moments in the fight when Floyd was getting DOMINATED and not once was Ortiz ever dominated like that. Roach knows what time it is.

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          • bMak
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            #55
            Originally posted by americanbot
            you really can't tell much of anything with only 3 early rounds..........
            I disagree. The defense may be a stretch, but you can tell he had his left hook countered twice and he was short on a few power punches when he was pushing Vic back.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Perfect Plex
              From his weekly Boxing News UK Column. Some of HIS OWN quotes.

              -He says it was a cheap shot, but Ortiz was being to apologetic

              -He said Victor maybe should of even give Floyd another headbutt, he says thats how to beat Floyd take him out of his game & rough him up.

              -He said you could see Floyd crying & complaining but its a phyiscal game

              -He also says Manny & Khan both take him out
              So it's official now... the hate on Mayweather reached new heights *looooool*

              He says it was an cheap shot... ok...

              But wanted to see more headbutts... I think it is really time for Freddie to retire... can't believe that such crap comes really out of his mouth...

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              • BillyBoxing
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                #57
                Originally posted by americanbot
                roach is OBVIOUSLY at a lost on how to "beat" mayweather.......

                LOL @ headbutt him more............

                the truth is mayweather showed his foot speed (legs) against JMM. he'll do the same against pac if he needs to, you're delusional if you think other wise.........i personally don't think he need legs against pac. it's best to stand RIGHT IN FRONT of pac & make him miss & counter him to death behind a great defensive shield.



                mayweather would be looking to do just this.
                I really think you guys underrate Pacquiao's offensive weapons...

                Pacquiao is faster than Ortiz, he also has enough Power to make Mosley seat on the canevas and run (old or not, Mosley still has a strong chin) or to make strong and iron headed Clottey refuse to fight.

                I always thought Ortiz had no chance to beat Floyd because he was too slow and totally unexperienced.

                Ortiz wasn't ready, 24 years old, 2 losses, one title fight, and this fight was a joke.

                Honnestly, Pac would crush Ortiz in 4 rounds, and this without sucka punches.

                Marquez has pac number cuz he can fight in the inside better than anybody in that game. I don't think Floyd beat Manny toe to toe without at least TASTING once the canevas.

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                • BillyBoxing
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by jkaisen41
                  So it's official now... the hate on Mayweather reached new heights *looooool*

                  He says it was an cheap shot... ok...

                  But wanted to see more headbutts... I think it is really time for Freddie to retire... can't believe that such crap comes really out of his mouth...
                  Floyd is right, as a fighter he deserves more props, but his behaviour doesn't help, as a person, he doesn't.

                  He's a direspectfull as.s hole, I don't like him for that reason, I recognize he's an awesome athlete.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by bMak
                    I disagree. The defense may be a stretch, but you can tell he had his left hook countered twice and he was short on a few power punches when he was pushing Vic back.
                    this is pertaining to vics style & mayweathers style. again. you can't tell much of anything with 3 early rounds.......vic like pac is a QUICK QUICK starter. floyd gets massively stronger, quicker, & accurate as the fight goes on.



                    3 early rounds isn't gonna do it.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by americanbot
                      this is pertaining to vics style & mayweathers style. again. you can't tell much of anything with 3 early rounds.......vic like pac is a QUICK QUICK starter. floyd gets massively stronger, quicker, & accurate as the fight goes on.



                      3 early rounds isn't gonna do it.
                      I Can tell you this, Victor had made Mayweather fight at a much higher pace than Floyd likes to operate at and he was touching the body, he was also making Floyd miss that left hook, Floyds jab wasnt really there, mostly that right hand and that right uppercut, Floyd was throwing more power punches early in the fight.

                      Why does this matter? We already know Victor can maintain a very high work rate, as proven in the fight with Berto, Floyd hasnt fought with a high work rate like this in years, by the fourth round Mayweather had already thrown 200 plus punches, there was still two thirds left in the fight.

                      I think Ortiz came with the right game plan, un fortunantly we didnt have an ideal ref in there to stay on top of things, However I beleive, that had this fight went into the later rounds, Floyd would fade, he would be forced to fight at a high work rate all teh way through and sooner or later he is going to have to lay off that gas pedal and conserve himself for the championship rounds.

                      basicly Mayweather was on track to throw 600 shots if it went all 12, whens the last time Floyd has had a high paced fight like that with someone who is actually hitting him back? its been a while..... a long while.

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