Andre Ward is going to school Carl Froch

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  • Prince Mongo
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    #51
    I like both fighters and rate them both but I feel Ward is going to win this fight.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #52
      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
      IMO Kessler is not a better fighter then Froch,but even still styles make fights..Froch has a style that seems will give Ward some problems..But that's just my opinion...
      I don't see what Froch brings to the table to trouble Ward that Kessler doesn''t.

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      • wazaa.
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        #53
        Ward gonna beat Froch.

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        • rampant
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          #54
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          I don't see what Froch brings to the table to trouble Ward that Kessler doesn''t.
          He will bring boxing skills which he hadnt used enough off until losing to Kessler, up till then Froch thought he could just **** with anyone and win.

          He was always a good boxer but didnt use thos skills enough, abraham fight displayed it, he got caught up in a bit of a tear up with Johnson if he had stood off and boxed him it at range it would have been the same.

          Froch's minor problem for me is he loves a tear up and to be fair he usually wins.

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          • Buffalo
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            #55
            It's going to be an ugly foul fest. Froch easily frustrates and ward wont take s..t

            Neither fighter will back down. Ward outpoints froch 8 rounds to 4.

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            • SirTomJones
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              #56
              he isn't going to school him.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #57
                Originally posted by rampant
                He will bring boxing skills which he hadnt used enough off until losing to Kessler, up till then Froch thought he could just **** with anyone and win.

                He was always a good boxer but didnt use thos skills enough, abraham fight displayed it, he got caught up in a bit of a tear up with Johnson if he had stood off and boxed him it at range it would have been the same.

                Froch's minor problem for me is he loves a tear up and to be fair he usually wins.
                I feel Froch's Boxing skills are overrated.

                I don't think he didn't box with the likes of Glen Johnson or Kessler because "He didn't want to" I think he didn't box with them because he couldn't.

                Carl Froch isn't a boxer, never really has been. Yes he has some skills but not overwhelming one's nor does he have all that much Boxing ability.

                That's why the likes of Johnson hit him relatively frequent.

                He tried to box with Kessler at times but was simply outboxed and outfought by the more skillful fighter.

                I highly doubt Froch will even try to box at all with Ward. He will try to close the gap and make it a fight. Like he did with both Taylor and Dirrell.

                And IMO his only chance is too hope that Ward gasses out and takes him out late because he's not winning on the scorecards and he certainly isn't outboxing Ward.

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                • rampant
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  I feel Froch's Boxing skills are overrated.

                  I don't think he didn't box with the likes of Glen Johnson or Kessler because "He didn't want to" I think he didn't box with them because he couldn't.

                  Carl Froch isn't a boxer, never really has been. Yes he has some skills but not overwhelming one's nor does he have all that much Boxing ability.

                  That's why the likes of Johnson hit him relatively frequent.

                  He tried to box with Kessler at times but was simply outboxed and outfought by the more skillful fighter.

                  I highly doubt Froch will even try to box at all with Ward. He will try to close the gap and make it a fight. Like he did with both Taylor and Dirrell.

                  And IMO his only chance is too hope that Ward gasses out and takes him out late because he's not winning on the scorecards and he certainly isn't outboxing Ward.
                  right, so he must have been pretty lucky so far in his career?

                  Johnson only caught him as he kept carelessly dropping his left hand, Kessler fight could have gone either way at this level styles make a fight I dont think Kessler is more skillful.

                  After Kessler defeat he knows he cant just go out and **** everyone out therefore I think he will use his boxing skills to open up Ward to then knock him out.

                  differnt opinions, lets see what happens!

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                  • Rome-By-Ko
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    I don't see what Froch brings to the table to trouble Ward that Kessler doesn''t.
                    Froch jab is better then Kesslers,his ability to fight coming forward or off the backfoot..Not to mention Froch will not be bullied,he seems physically stronger then Kessler..His conditioning is second to none..Ward will not have an easy night bro..

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by rampant
                      right, so he must have been pretty lucky so far in his career?

                      Johnson only caught him as he kept carelessly dropping his left hand, Kessler fight could have gone either way at this level styles make a fight I dont think Kessler is more skillful.

                      After Kessler defeat he knows he cant just go out and **** everyone out therefore I think he will use his boxing skills to open up Ward to then knock him out.

                      differnt opinions, lets see what happens!
                      Not particularly, no.

                      The one time I consider him to be lucky in his career was getting the Decision against Dirrell in which although was a close fight I felt Dirrell deserved the decision.

                      Other than that, he has been very succesful in racking up a list of impressive wins against Top opposition mainly due to his excellent chin, power, strength, heart, determination, and will to win. Qualities than Froch does not lack. And qualites that make him argubally the best Super Middleweight today.

                      Skills I don't believe are a reason for his success. Skills I feel he lacks, really. Something I personally feel have become ridiculously overrated since the Abraham fight in which yes he did use skills and more so than he usually does against Abraham but let's face it Abraham is a fighter who is incredibly inactive and not all that difficult to outbox. I feel Kessler would outbox Abraham with ease aswell.

                      You say Johnson only caught him because he carelessly dropped his left hand but I would argue that Carl Froch is simply a careless fighter. He's always been careless, his whole career he's been careless. The only fight he hasn't is the Abraham fight. And I don't think that has anything to do with the fact he was beaten by Kessler.

                      If Abraham were a fighter who threw alot of punches then I would bet that Froch would be careless in that fight. And be hit alot more.

                      I don't see Froch as a fighter that can offset a fighters output with skills and boxing ability.

                      I don't feel the Kessler fight could have gone either way. I felt Kessler clearly won the fight.

                      Yeah, differing opinions. I respect yours, but we will have to agree to disagree.

                      I can't wait for this fight.

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