I think we saw a beatable Floyd

[Lords]

I agree that Floyd looked a little beatable. His footwork was really bad and is not what it use to be. He fought flat footed and that wont be good against a fast Manny. If he doesn't fix this i think Manny would have a good chance to KO Floyd. I've always said Floyd would beat Manny pretty easy but Floyds footwork looks really bad and that could cost him if he fought Manny.

[Pacquiao'd]

I agree that Floyd looked a little beatable. His footwork was really bad and is not what it use to be. He fought flat footed and that wont be good against a fast Manny. If he doesn't fix this i think Manny would have a good chance to KO Floyd. I've always said Floyd would beat Manny pretty easy but Floyds footwork looks really bad and that could cost him if he fought Manny.

he sat on his punches, fool

[Carpe Diem]

Still great enough to beat Manny. Manny's footwork is poor against Boxers who can move or fight at long range. Add to the fact that his reach isn't long enough, he will have to desperately gets in closer range enough to land his punches in which he'll leave himself wide open for straight right hands down the pipe.




^^ Watch it with the volume off.

[Tulisanto]

i did too. but then again i saw a beatabl floyd in the chavez fight, hoya fight (early rounds), chop chop fight( at times) and ortiz. he also took a basic 1-2 vs a past prime mithcell. floyd's defense aint as good vs southpaws imo.

[Carpe Diem]

I agree that Floyd looked a little beatable. His footwork was really bad and is not what it use to be. He fought flat footed and that wont be good against a fast Manny. If he doesn't fix this i think Manny would have a good chance to KO Floyd. I've always said Floyd would beat Manny pretty easy but Floyds footwork looks really bad and that could cost him if he fought Manny.

Dude, i think you give Manny too much credit for his footwork. Movement can be neutralize depending on how you fight. Manny has poor footwork against Boxers who don't fight him at close range. Floyd really didn't had to moved much in his fight against Ortiz. He sat more on his punches because he needed to against a guy who outweighed him by 14 lb. He fought Ortiz at long range, and was able to timed Ortiz's lunging movement consistently and bounced back when he had to.

Although Manny has much quicker lateral movement than Ortiz, his reach would be short to catch Floyd at long range at a consistent basis for 12 rounds, he would have to close the gap and leave himself vulnerable to Floyd's much longer reach advantage.

[Pacquiao'd]

Still great enough to beat Manny. Manny's footwork is poor against Boxers who can move or fight at long range. Add to the fact that his reach isn't long enough, he will have to desperately gets in closer range enough to land his punches in which he'll leave himself wide open for straight right hands down the pipe.




^^ Watch it with the volume off.

haha. floyd is going to seriously pwn Pac

[Carpe Diem]

i did too. but then again i saw a beatabl floyd in the chavez fight, hoya fight (early rounds), chop chop fight( at times) and ortiz. he also took a basic 1-2 vs a past prime mithcell. floyd's defense aint as good vs southpaws imo.

I think that's an overstatement.


Floyd Mayweather's Defense vs Southpaws(Ortiz,Judah,Mitchell,Corley)


Total punches combined

Landed: 289
Thrown: 1,523

19%


Power punches

Landed: 219
Thrown: 826

26%


Total Jabs

Landed: 70
Thrown: 697

10%

[intoccabile]

In the last few years I have thought that Floyd has looked unbeatable and I have thought that he would beat Pacquiao if they were to fight.

But I dont know if it was a little ring rust or maybe a little bit of father time catching up to Floyd but I thought he looked more vulnerable then he maybe ever has. I think it was round 2 where Ortiz was steadily backing him up all round which was surprising to me. Then that last little flurry where Ortiz landed 2 or 3 clean punches and then turned ignorant by head butting him, I thought that even though Floyd was clearly winning that maybe it would turn in to a little tougher fight coming down the stretch then Floyd would have liked.

I kept thinking that if Ortiz was able to get him against the ropes and land a few shots then maybe Manny has a better shot against him than i thought. Manny with quicker hands and with different angles might be able to land a little more than what Floyd is used.

I dont know, just my thoughts.

It was suprising you to see him back up in a round? Really?.. why? Isn't that what he did for the majority of his career, back up?...

[Tulisanto]

I think that's an overstatement.


Floyd Mayweather's Defense vs Southpaws(Ortiz,Judah,Mitchell,Corley)


Total punches combined

Landed: 289
Thrown: 1,523

19%


Power punches

Landed: 219
Thrown: 826

26%


Total Jabs

Landed: 70
Thrown: 697

10%

dude, im not here to argue them guys won vs floyd coz that would be ridiculous. but im sayin floyd gets hit way a lot easier when he's fighting souhtpaws, thus his defense aint as good when he's fighting them. and all the southpaws he fought aint really that good, thats sayin a lot.

[champ_kw]

Ortiz wouldnt have made it to the 7th. Floyd showed how easily he will beat pac and that hr will ko him too

THIS!

Nothing about Floyd's performance against a younger, stronger, heavier, and heavy handed southpaw leads you to believe anything other than he embarasses Pac. Cats are screaming about a bogus 2nd round win for Ortiz (cause Lederman said so) when his land totals were almost doubled by Floyd. Ortiz didn't land a single jab and landed at a 6.5 punches landed/round clip. Add to the fact that this is what a 34 year old man fresh off the couch for 16 months did to him. Pac is in trouble and it's becoming evident with all the feminine threads about Floyd's moral compass. You can't knock the man's game, so now everyone is resorting to calling something legal within the confines of the sport wrong. How can anything be wrong when it's right??

Y'all grasping at straws and the writing is on the wall. This is as close as we've been to a potential show down and these cats are panicing. Everyone is outta the way and in a shrewed move, Floyd opted to keep the belt and pay the sanctioning fees unlike with Shane. Pac is painted into a corner. After JMM, he has to go looking for the man at the division or he's admittedly fighting lesser comp. With Floyd, everybody is a challenger...but with Pac, only Floyd would be the champ. So I hope Manny takes care of JMM and I hope that Sports Illustrated story about the likes of Tim Bradley being on Pac's radar aren't true.