The Official: How much credit should floyd get if he defeats Ortiz thread

[gayfish]

I don't consider Ortiz a great threat to Floyd, probably on the same level as Mosley.
Around 7.5/10.

7.5 too high homie. check his performance against peterson and campbell. and HBO protected Berto was very competitive.

[Johnwoo8686]

7.5 too high homie. check his performance against peterson and campbell. and HBO protected Berto was very competitive.

Using your logic a win against Pacquiao wouldn't mean **** because he was knocked out by two nobodies and got outboxed by a past prime morales!
Dude stop hating bro. He's fighting the type of fighter his detractors have accused him of ducking. Someone young, strong, a southpaw, and bigger than Floyd.

[gayfish]

Using your logic a win against Pacquiao wouldn't mean **** because he was knocked out by two nobodies and got outboxed by a past prime morales!
Dude stop hating bro. He's fighting the type of fighter his detractors have accused him of ducking. Someone young, strong, a southpaw, and bigger than Floyd.

i didnt hear no one crying out to fight a quitter though. am i wrong here homie?

[Fighting Pride]

About as much as Maidana gets for beating him.

[gayfish]

About as much as Maidana gets for beating him.

But consider this mate. Maidana did it when victor was unbeaten. going by floyd's standard hes picking maidana's leftover.

[Johnwoo8686]

i didnt hear no one crying out to fight a quitter though. am i wrong here homie?

LOL at you haters. Floyd cant win with you guys. Unless he fights someone bigger than him, younger than him, AND BETTER than he cant win with you guys.

Victor Ortiz is the best welterweight out there not named Pacquiao. Stop bringing up that he quit because that was TWO and a half years ago! Do you guys bring up Manny getting outboxed by Marquez just three years ago? Of course not. You just have it in your minds that Manny and ONLY Manny is the guy to beat Mayweather..

[gayfish]

LOL at you haters. Floyd cant win with you guys. Unless he fights someone bigger than him, younger than him, AND BETTER than he cant win with you guys.

Victor Ortiz is the best welterweight out there not named Pacquiao. Stop bringing up that he quit because that was TWO and a half years ago! Do you guys bring up Manny getting outboxed by Marquez just three years ago? Of course not. You just have it in your minds that Manny and ONLY Manny is the guy to beat Mayweather..

man props you actually bringing up argument. for an inactive boxer claiming he the GOAT i expect more han a blown up JMM anf OLDsley sorry but i do have a high standard. What Ortiz performance impressed you prior to the Overated HBO protected Berto?. ill wait for your reply. and Cotto and Marg have a good chance of beating floyd. as well as maravilla. thanks.

[AssasinKing]

7.5/10

I cant say Ortiz is a proven fighter yet....we never even got to see Berto vs Mosley...to say how proven a fighter he is etc

But i can see a young, powerful boy looking to take the top place in the sport...so its a solid win on floyds resume....

If floyd wins (i think he will by UD) Its probably his best WW win...which shows just how much competition hes faught at ww.....

[Johnwoo8686]

man props you actually bringing up argument. for an inactive boxer claiming he the GOAT i expect more han a blown up JMM anf OLDsley sorry but i do have a high standard. What Ortiz performance impressed you prior to the Overated HBO protected Berto?. ill wait for your reply. and Cotto and Marg have a good chance of beating floyd. as well as maravilla. thanks.

LOL Margarito? A confirmed cheater with SEVEN LOSSES, including a loss to a guy Floyd beat (Mosley). Man, Margs shouldn't even be mentioned because most of his "wins" are now suspect.

Cotto has a chance but hes past it. He hasn't looked the same since the Margarito fight. The man looked like crap against Clottey for godsakes. And why do you say a win against PAcquiao would be so good for Floyd when Pacquio fought an even older Mosley and is now fighting the same blown up JMM this november?

Come on bro, your reasoning has so many flaws its laughable!

[gayfish]

7.5/10

I cant say Ortiz is a proven fighter yet....we never even got to see Berto vs Mosley...to say how proven a fighter he is etc

But i can see a young, powerful boy looking to take the top place in the sport...so its a solid win on floyds resume....

If floyd wins (i think he will by UD) Its probably his best WW win...which shows just how much competition hes faught at ww.....

man how can you even say that?. unless you think berto was a GREAT WW champion. Ortiz isnt a THRET. hes an exciting leftie. thats the whole truth. an exciting leftie coming off a FOTY match. thats all.