The Official: How much credit should floyd get if he defeats Ortiz thread

[Johnwoo8686]

Come on now. you dont think mental midget Ortiz is suddenly a warrior after watching 24/7. He is the same fighter. he had a good WW performance against ATG berto (sarcasm). but besides that? what?

reality aint fantasy match dawg. i dont give props to fantasy wins. specially coming off blatant ducks. as well should you.

He may not be on Mayweathers level of skill or mental strength but he IS far younger, bigger, stronger and hungry. May has absolutely NO physical advantages coming into this fight so give him credit where credit is due.

[gayfish]

I agree with this thread...nobody is "ready" to be an opponent for Pacquiao unless they are shot, 39, and fighting at a catchweight...floyd is cherry picking coward fighting 24 year old welterweight champions...if he had real balls he would fight for vacant paper titles!!!!

LOL.you missed the point of the thread. told you *****s to stay in school and stop thugging and all. LOL

[gayfish]

He may not be on Mayweathers level of skill or mental strength but he IS far younger, bigger, stronger and hungry. May has absolutely NO physical advantages coming into this fight so give him credit where credit is due.

I am giving him credit. beating a WW who beat an overrated berto. Do you think berto was the ****???
the post maidana Ortiz. who wasnt all that against peterson and old dumbass nate campbell.

[KJB]

let me guess.. you saying that after he DOMINATED an ATG in berto. right?...come now. you better than that.

No, after he decisively defeated the top WW outside of the big two, Berto. Berto was the guy knocking at the door, Ortiz beat him and got that spot. Is Ortiz the best fighter to ever lace up gloves? No. But he IS number 3 at welter, you have to give Floyd his credit.

[Johnwoo8686]

I am giving him credit. beating a WW who beat an overrated berto. Do you think berto was the ****???
the post maidana Ortiz. who wasnt all that against peterson and old dumbass nate campbell.

LOL who hasn't looked bad in fights? All fighters, even the elite ones have had fights where they looked like ****. Pacquiao against Marquez and a past prime Barrera for example. Hopkins versus Calzaghe and Taylor. Just because Ortiz looked less than stellar does not take away from him as a fighter. You're discrediting Ortiz so Mayweather will get no credit if he wins.

[gayfish]

No, after he decisively defeated the top WW outside of the big two, Berto. Berto was the guy knocking at the door, Ortiz beat him and got that spot. Is Ortiz the best fighter to ever lace up gloves? No. But he IS number 3 at welter, you have to give Floyd his credit.

i never thought Berto was anything but an HBO protected overrated fighter. Why should i give floyd credit if he " cherrypicked" the winner of that match. im glad hes finally fighting. but to cherrypick Ortiz and pretend Ortiz is the real ****??..come on now. your expectations for floyd the self proclaimed GOAT is quite low.

[gayfish]

LOL who hasn't looked bad in fights? All fighters, even the elite ones have had fights where they looked like ****. Pacquiao against Marquez and a past prime Barrera for example. Hopkins versus Calzaghe and Taylor. Just because Ortiz looked less than stellar does not take away from him as a fighter. You're discrediting Ortiz so Mayweather will get no credit if he wins.

consider the level of competition homie. thats all im gonna say.

[KJB]

i never thought Berto was anything but an HBO protected overrated fighter. Why should i give floyd credit if he " cherrypicked" the winner of that match. im glad hes finally fighting. but to cherrypick Ortiz and pretend Ortiz is the real ****??..come on now. your expectations for floyd the self proclaimed GOAT is quite low.

Who, at welter, would you have had him fought? He "cherrypicked" the best available opponent. Fighting the best opponent available in his weight class isn't a low expectation.

[gayfish]

Who, at welter, would you have had him fought? He "cherrypicked" the best available opponent. Fighting the best opponent available in his weight class isn't a low expectation.

LOL. best available when floyd finally feels like fighting again. cherrypick i tell you.

[jkaisen41]

Considering all things , ten being the highest how much credit should floyd get after beating Ortiz.

I would rank it around 8...

1 1/2 and a half layoff - fights a young, strong fighter who is a champion - who with all his faults he has is still a pretty hard fighter to beat and would beat about 90% of the welterweights at least - so yes... 7-8 sounds good...