Which fighter was more myth then man?

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  • Enayze
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    #61
    Originally posted by McKay 1
    Golota in his prime was a monster. Could have been a long reigning heavyweight champion. I think it is only for political reasons that never happened.

    Ike Ibeabuchi to his defence did stop Byrd in 4 rounds. Nobody has ever done that. He did have all the attributes of a really great fighter.

    It didn't happen because he was a maniac in the ring hitting people below the belt, behind the head, and headbutting. Plus all the times he quit in the ring.

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    • Punch Drunk Willie
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      #62
      Hi. I'm Punch Drunk Willie, and I'm brand spankin' new here. I would have to say that Tommy Morrison was pretty hyped. Maybe not the worst case ever, but he was just this muscle-bound, cornbread fed white dude, who wasn't much faster than Frank Bruno dipped in molasses. But with the whole John Wayne angle, and the Rocky film, he was blown up huge for a while.

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      • Enayze
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        #63
        Ike Ibeabuchi anyone?

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        • TheManWhoCan
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          #64
          I agree that Hamed was a myth. Simply because you can't be called anything but a coward when you lose in devestating fashon, then don't fight anymore. If he were a true champ like people had thought he was, he would have gotten the rematch against Barerra and knocked his block off. I don't really like RJJR, but he got some respect trying to beat Tarver for good - 3 times. So in that regard, RJ to me is less of a myth then Hamed. So much so that it's not comparable. I'm probably going to catch some flak for that, but it's my opinion. I don't think any fighter can be praised for going into seclusion after a loss....and not coming out of it.

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          • Padilla
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            #65
            Originally posted by NotoriousThuggg
            post **** sentence tyson.
            All myth there. Tyson before prison was a beast!

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            • JUYJUY
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              #66
              Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)
              OK... Who has Tyson beat that is of better quality than Razzor Ruddock?

              Who is the best opponent that Mike Tyson has beaten?
              Pinklon Thomas, undefeated Biggs, undefeated Tucker, Tony Tubbs would of schooled Ruddock, Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks.

              Spinks aside, Pinklon and Tucker were the best (maybe Biggs, we don't know because Biggs lost faith after the Tyson fight, but he was the Olympic Gold medalist who beat Lennox Lewis in the final). Tucker at his best would of won every round against Lewis (I'm talking about the young, prime Tucker here, not the Tucker who's jab sloooowed down in his 30's, not the Tucker who became a crack head).
              Last edited by JUYJUY; 10-21-2005, 07:25 AM.

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              • JUYJUY
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                #67
                I certainly wouldn't put Roy Jones Jr in the same class as a Prime Mike Tyson or a Prime Naseem Hamed.

                What true fighter did Roy Jones fight who was at their best at the time of him fighting them? Roy Jones was notorious for ducking top-class fighters like McClellan, Benn, Eubank, Michalczewski, even Calzaghe. Atleast Tyson and Hamed beat everybody in sight and cleared out their divisions, Roy Jones never did that and never could of done that because he wasn't good enough.

                At middleweight, he didn't fight Julian Jackson or Gerald McClellan, or even Lamar Parks. At super-middleweight, he didn't fight Nigel Benn or Chris Eubank, or even Frankie Liles or Michael Nunn. At light-heavyweight, he didn't fight Graciano Rocchigiani or Michael Nunn, let alone Dariusz Michalczewski. When he was picking on tomato cans once a year in the 2000's, he had Calzaghe and Jirov desperately trying everything to get a fight with him.

                Please, Super_Lightweight, stop being so extremely biased towards Roy Jones because it makes you look damn ******. Roy Jones was a disgrace to the sport of boxing, and we need him to be forgotten.

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                • JUYJUY
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                  #68
                  If you want to see some true boxing talent, check out Nunn's early career. Nunn was just as quick as Jones Jr before drugs got him, and nobody will remember him like they will that fraud Jones.
                  Last edited by JUYJUY; 10-21-2005, 03:51 PM.

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                  • The Infamous
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by JUYJUY
                    If you want to see some true boxing talent, check out Nunn's early career. Nunn was just as quick as Jones Jr before drugs got him, and nobody will remember him like they will that fraud Jones.
                    Yeah, Jones is a bum, BLAH BLAH BLAH! You got excuses for everything man. Eubank himself said prime vs prime Roy Jones Jr would beat him. Jones Jr would murder Benn and Collins in one night. You want to talk about frauds, how about Hamed (your buddy), who in the hell did he beat anyways? Oh, that's right, the first worldclass fighter he faced kicked his ass.

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                    • Moon
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                      #70
                      Despite all of Hamed's accomplishments, he still represents the ultimate example of "mental softness" in the game of boxing. Hamed's name is synonymous with being "owned", despite also being the #1 guy before that fight.

                      Hamed represents the ulitimate example of "being retired" by another fighter, so he gets my vote, because he never even tried to avenge that loss. he tucked his tail and went away, literally.

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