Does Ortiz Have The Hand Speed To Counter Mayweather?

[Heru]

Yes... As long as he's on the inside.

Mayweather has never been in the ring against the combination of speed, power, explosiveness, combinations, and physical strength Ortiz will bring, let alone from the southpaw stance, let alone one that wants to and can fight on the inside...

Mosley had the physical attributes, but combinations for him are 1-2 max. at this point. plus he's the one that taught Berto how to in-fight.

130 lb. Floyd couldn't escape inside fighting against Jesus Chavez, 135 lb. Floyd couldn't escape JLC in the first fight, or 147 lb. Hatton (which is why he had to get off first and hold over and over)... As long as Ortiz is on the inside and not the outside or being pushed back, he will be in the fight. Ortiz on the inside will be letting go quick right and left hooks, uppercuts, and straights in 3,4,5+ combination with power, all the while pushing Mayweather back...

Floyd will have to follow the Peterson game plan (continuous step back counters from the outside) to a T... If he doesn't, we'll be watching Floyd's closest and toughest fight since that first Castillo fight (DLH and Judah weren't what I would call tough or even close).

[MRBOOMER]

Don't you mean timing?

[Guest]

skills win fights

[Queen_Leia]

Yes... As long as he's on the inside.

Mayweather has never been in the ring against the combination of speed, power, explosiveness, combinations, and physical strength Ortiz will bring, let alone from the southpaw stance, let alone one that wants to and can fight on the inside...

Brute strength & power won't beat Floyd...Corrales had power remember.There is no way Ortiz is a better inside fighter than Floyd....NO WAY.

Floyd ring IQ will neutralize all of Ortiz physical attributes...remember how Hopkins beat Pascal.

Mosley had the physical attributes, but combinations for him are 1-2 max. at this point. plus he's the one that taught Berto how to in-fight.

130 lb. Floyd couldn't escape inside fighting against Jesus Chavez, 135 lb. Floyd couldn't escape JLC in the first fight, or 147 lb. Hatton (which is why he had to get off first and hold over and over)... As long as Ortiz is on the inside and not the outside or being pushed back, he will be in the fight. Ortiz on the inside will be letting go quick right and left hooks, uppercuts, and straights in 3,4,5+ combination with power, all the while pushing Mayweather back...

Floyd will kill Ortiz on the inside...I just watch video on youtube of both of them inside fighting...not even close.

Floyd will have to follow the Peterson game plan (continuous step back counters from the outside) to a T... If he doesn't, we'll be watching Floyd's closest and toughest fight since that first Castillo fight (DLH and Judah weren't what I would call tough or even close).

He doesn't have to follow it to a T, Floyd can make a mistake and still win, Ortiz cannot.

"If you make a mistake, you have to pay" - FMJ

[MindBat]

Yes... As long as he's on the inside.

Mayweather has never been in the ring against the combination of speed, power, explosiveness, combinations, and physical strength Ortiz will bring, let alone from the southpaw stance, let alone one that wants to and can fight on the inside...

Mosley had the physical attributes, but combinations for him are 1-2 max. at this point. plus he's the one that taught Berto how to in-fight.

130 lb. Floyd couldn't escape inside fighting against Jesus Chavez, 135 lb. Floyd couldn't escape JLC in the first fight, or 147 lb. Hatton (which is why he had to get off first and hold over and over)... As long as Ortiz is on the inside and not the outside or being pushed back, he will be in the fight. Ortiz on the inside will be letting go quick right and left hooks, uppercuts, and straights in 3,4,5+ combination with power, all the while pushing Mayweather back...

Floyd will have to follow the Peterson game plan (continuous step back counters from the outside) to a T... If he doesn't, we'll be watching Floyd's closest and toughest fight since that first Castillo fight (DLH and Judah weren't what I would call tough or even close).

Ortiz will take a seat on the canvas if he tries any funny stuff.

[BattleAxePurist]

Brute strength & power won't beat Floyd...Corrales had power remember.There is no way Ortiz is a better inside fighter than Floyd....NO WAY.

Floyd ring IQ will neutralize all of Ortiz physical attributes...remember how Hopkins beat Pascal.




Floyd will kill Ortiz on the inside...I just watch video on youtube of both of them inside fighting...not even close.



He doesn't have to follow it to a T, Floyd can make a mistake and still win, Ortiz cannot.

"If you make a mistake, you have to pay" - FMJ

that doesn't appear to be totally accurate given the difference in punching power if floyd slips and eats a big punch he's more likely to get hurt and KOd whereas ortiz will make plenty of mistakes in this fight and will be chugging along he's been down so many times and fought back it won't be new to him as it would be to floyd do you really think ortiz has ever fought a mistake free fight that's what floyd relies on.

it's the other way around if floyd makes a mistake he'll be looking up at his stardom from the canvas floor
most are saying ortiz has a punchers chance at best

ortiz does need to be on the inside he fairs a much better chance there then trying to match floyd from the outside if he gets beat up oh well the difference between castillo I @ II is what?
geography

[IronDanHamza]

Ortiz is not really an inside fighter nor is he even a pressure fighter really.

[Heru]

Brute strength & power won't beat Floyd...Corrales had power remember.There is no way Ortiz is a better inside fighter than Floyd....NO WAY.

Floyd ring IQ will neutralize all of Ortiz physical attributes...remember how Hopkins beat Pascal.

Where was it said that just brute strength and power would beat Floyd? Diego had power, but lacked the foot speed and explosiveness to close in on the younger, energetic, and fleet footed version of Floyd, who's gameplan was to avoid inside fighting. Ortiz has the foot speed and explosiveness Diego lacked and Floyd has lost a step on his foot speed since then.

Where was it said that Ortiz is a better inside fighter than Floyd? Ortiz doesn't have to be better, he just has to get his offense going when he's inside. Mayweather is a better outside fighter than Judah, but couldn't get his offense going until he got to the inside.

Floyd will kill Ortiz on the inside...I just watch video on youtube of both of them inside fighting...not even close.

Whatever... Ortiz has a better chance on the inside than the outside. There's a reason Floyd has avoided inside fighting at all costs since JLC I. He used to stay in the pocket and even invite inside fightera to the inside, not anymore. Now Ortiz is going to force Mayweather to fight On the inside for extended stretches.

He doesn't have to follow it to a T, Floyd can make a mistake and still win, Ortiz cannot.

"If you make a mistake, you have to pay" - FMJ

Yes... Because Floyd has the 1 punch KO power that Ortiz has to avoid. Of course he can't make a mistake.

Answers in bold...

[bose]

timing gets any fighter, marquez was able to counter mayweather and he's slowed a bit so ortiz should be able to time mayweather as long as he don't get in a bull fight, watch for mayweather elbows, and other illegal tactics in this fight

[Carpe Diem]

Floyd Mayweather

Total Fights: 11
Total Rounds: 109


Offensive stats

Floyd Mayweather: Total punches landed/thrown against N'dou/Corley/Bruseles/Gatti/Mitchell/Judah/Baldomir/Oscar/Hatton/Marquez/Mosley

Landed: 2,134
Thrown: 4,502

47%






Power punches

Landed: 1,390
Thrown: 2,668

52%







Total Jabs

Landed: 744
Thrown: 1,834

41%






Defensive stats

N'dou/Corley/Bruseles/Gatti/Mitchell/Judah/Baldomir/Oscar/Hatton/Marquez/Mosley: Total Punches landed/thrown against Floyd Mayweather:

Landed: 903
Thrown: 5,090

18%






Power Punches

Landed: 614
Thrown: 2,949

21%







Total Jabs

Landed: 289
Thrown: 2,141

13%

Good luck, Ortiz.