Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather Talks Pacquiao, Ortiz Fight, More

[Clint650]

THIS is what i have been posting, completely agree...

it is sickening beyond belief and disrespect....

for anyone to like floyd mayweather the person, not the boxer, the person then they are the same as he is.....

what an embarrassment

are you kidding? like the troops had no clue about who they were going to be entertained by in an interview? damn, wake up, god bless the man for showing them how great America is and reminding them about that. every single soldier who was there im sure enjoyed that, and if it was in any way showing off and shoving it in their face im sure they could have walked away. is their any reports on what the troops though about the interview? or do i have to just read about your opinion on the matter?

[jrosales13]

You are dreaming if you think that reply was acceptable.

Explain why you disagree, go into detail, and use big words.

For what purpose exactly?

[jrosales13]

You missed the point again. The excuse is ALWAYS there and I'm not going to debate De La Hoya with you.

Again, Small, medium, large, extra large, old, young, strong, weak, fast, slow, etc no matter WHAT there will always be an excuse (MY POINT).

Hatton, JMM, Ortiz, Khan and eventually Pac will all be labeled as "too small". Recent example, Mosley was "too old", Ortiz is "too young". Always an excuse even when these fighters are Champions, knocking people the F**K OUT and are everything Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and Mosley WASN'T when they stepped in the ring with Pac.

When Floyd makes Pac look worse than Mosley did and walks away the victor you think people will be happy enough to give Floyd credit? Be 100.... No, there will be an excuse and Floyd will be ducking (insert name). People will move on and the cycle repeats itself like it has done several times already. Give it time and history will repeats itself. You will see.

Do you feel if pac beats Floyd there will excuses on the victory as there has been for Pac every single victory? "be 100"

[jrosales13]

I knew sooner or later that my son would reply to one of my post.

Believe me for me to get sonned, the person would have to have far greater knowledge than you do sir. With all due respect you're not up to par sir.

[LeadUppercut]

Going back to what you said Pac ain't even a future HOF'er and not even in the top 100...

I'm curious. Do you mind posting your list of your top 100, or ok, maybe just the top 30.

Now that'll be interesting.

I have a much better idea.....

I stand by every comment that I make, so seeing that you felt obligated to bring the subject up, actually indicate what you disagree with, and why.

Surely that is a far more relevant, honest, way of assessing this ?

What do you disagree with, and why ?

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Pacquiao is barely hof-worthy.

Had he fought back in the old days when there was only one champion, no catch-weights, under the original divisions, using same-day weigh-ins, he would likely only be a 1-2 division champ, at best.

The last prime champion that Pac fought beat him, and the previous champ who beat Pac wasnt even prime. I dont see nothing there.

There are dozens of great fighters who were very successful going up and fighting as the smaller man..... they did not cherry-pick the easiest champion, fighting old men, manipulating advantages, using catch-weights..... they would fight anyone.

Pacquiao simply will not do that, and according to common-sense, he is likely a steroid cheat as well.

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FACT: Pacquiao has only ever fought two welterweights at 147, one was an old man, and the other was a bum..... neither were ranked higher than 4, and neither should have been ranked in the top 5.

FACT: Pac would not fight a faded shop-worn Cotto without a catch-weight.

FACT: Ortiz has achieved more at welter than Pacquiao, because he beat a legit #3, Manny has never done that. Berto > Clottey, and the Mosley that Pacquiao fought.

Pacquiao is a hypejob man, he has tip-toed through the tulips, due to superb match-making, masterful timing, and the manipulation of advantages..... his resume is manufactured.

" a good fighter will look great, if he holds all of the advantages "

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Back in the day, it is highly unlikely that Pac would have won a title at fly or welter. And at fw/lw he would have had to fight the very best, using same-day weigh-in, no catchweights, and no contractual manipulations.

Now, you may insist to me that Pacquiao COULD have done all that ?

My question is, then why the *** didnt he ?

Why is he fighting old men and bums who are mostly coming off losses ?

Why the catch-weights ?

Why the contractual manipulations if he is supposedly a P4P fighter ?

Your " Pac is an ATG " theory, requires a ****load of faith, which is rubbish.

Your theory requires that.....

* Pac could have beaten JMM in a rematch at 130, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten Raheem, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten the best lightweight, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten the best JWW, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten Cotto at 147, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten a genuine JMW, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten Mosley when he was #1, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten Mayweather, even though he did not
* Pac could have tested clean for steroids, even though he did not

Sooooooooooo many " coulds "

Certainly, way too many for a truly great fighter.

Great fighters leave more answers than questions, Manny has left more questions than answers.

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How about addressing the issues at hand, rather than sending me on some errand?

[jrosales13]

I have a much better idea.....

I stand by every comment that I make, so seeing that you felt obligated to bring the subject up, actually indicate what you disagree with, and why.

Surely that is a far more relevant, honest, way of assessing this ?

What do you disagree with, and why ?

=========================

Pacquiao is barely hof-worthy.

Had he fought back in the old days when there was only one champion, no catch-weights, under the original divisions, using same-day weigh-ins, he would likely only be a 1-2 division champ, at best.

The last prime champion that Pac fought beat him, and the previous champ who beat Pac wasnt even prime. I dont see nothing there.

There are dozens of great fighters who were very successful going up and fighting as the smaller man..... they did not cherry-pick the easiest champion, fighting old men, manipulating advantages, using catch-weights..... they would fight anyone.

Pacquiao simply will not do that, and according to common-sense, he is likely a steroid cheat as well.

=========================

FACT: Pacquiao has only ever fought two welterweights at 147, one was an old man, and the other was a bum..... neither were ranked higher than 4, and neither should have been ranked in the top 5.

FACT: Pac would not fight a faded shop-worn Cotto without a catch-weight.

FACT: Ortiz has achieved more at welter than Pacquiao, because he beat a legit #3, Manny has never done that. Berto > Clottey, and the Mosley that Pacquiao fought.

Pacquiao is a hypejob man, he has tip-toed through the tulips, due to superb match-making, masterful timing, and the manipulation of advantages..... his resume is manufactured.

" a good fighter will look great, if he holds all of the advantages "

=========================

Back in the day, it is highly unlikely that Pac would have won a title at fly or welter. And at fw/lw he would have had to fight the very best, using same-day weigh-in, no catchweights, and no contractual manipulations.

Now, you may insist to me that Pacquiao COULD have done all that ?

My question is, then why the *** didnt he ?

Why is he fighting old men and bums who are mostly coming off losses ?

Why the catch-weights ?

Why the contractual manipulations if he is supposedly a P4P fighter ?

Your " Pac is an ATG " theory, requires a ****load of faith, which is rubbish.

Your theory requires that.....

* Pac could have beaten JMM in a rematch at 130, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten Raheem, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten the best lightweight, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten the best JWW, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten Cotto at 147, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten a genuine JMW, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten Mosley when he was #1, even though he did not
* Pac could have beaten Mayweather, even though he did not
* Pac could have tested clean for steroids, even though he did not

Sooooooooooo many " coulds "

Certainly, way too many for a truly great fighter.

Great fighters leave more answers than questions, Manny has left more questions than answers.

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How about addressing the issues at hand, rather than sending me on some errand?

[South_paw]

The fact of the matter is.....

1.) blood tests are completely harmless

2.) Pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses are utter bull****

3.) ducking steroid testing is completely unacceptable

Connect the dots..... points 1+2+3 = Pac is almost certainly a steroid cheat.

Deal with it

So you're telling me there's a small chance of doubt in your mind? I thought *****s were 100000% sure Pac is a genuine roid freak!! Ur becoming soft, *****!

[LeadUppercut]

For what purpose exactly?

Because a factual statement cannot be dismissed, even with a laugh from jro

[jrosales13]

Because a factual statement cannot be dismissed, even with a laugh from jro

There is a difference between a factual statement and an opinionated statement.

And, an opinionated statement can be dismissed IMO , by a laugh from jro

[LeadUppercut]

Is that it ?

SMH

FACT: every single comment that you replied to is correct, unless you can prove otherwise.

Waiting.....