Helenius vs Arreola, who takes it?

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  • jrosales13
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    #31
    Originally posted by BostonGuy
    Arreola has been fighting a bum of the month while Helenius has fought back-to-back former hw titlists. Helenius is in a different class right IMO...
    To be fair though Liakhovich only fought 4 times in the last 4 1/2 years and had a .500 record in his last 4 fights.

    So even though he was a former HW titlist, lets keep it in perspective on where he actually was as a fighter when the fight happened.

    Helenius still showed good skills and no doubt is a true HW contender.

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    • MajorKong
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      #32
      Originally posted by BostonGuy
      Don't dignify this guy posts, he's obviously a troll who isn't interested in logical discourse..
      Shannon Briggs smoked Liakhovich.

      Logic me please.

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      • MajorKong
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        #33
        Originally posted by TheGreatA
        I'm not sure if it would improve Helenius's stock much if he fought a Klitschko and got beaten like a drum for 11 rounds.
        I'm sure beating Sergei is quite a great indicator of his stock. I know you people haven't had a one hit wonder since Hammer of Thor, but you need to ease up on this guy. He has done nothing.

        Peter and Liahovich were done long ago.

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        • BostonGuy
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          #34
          Originally posted by Fooly Cooly
          I'm sure beating Sergei is quite a great indicator of his stock. I know you people haven't had a one hit wonder since Hammer of Thor, but you need to ease up on this guy. He has done nothing.

          Peter and Liahovich were done long ago.
          What a ****ing douche bag you are. Seriously, the Nordic Nightmare has 16 fights under his belt and you criticizing the guy for beating past prime former hw titlists/champion (if you want to call 'em that)? Most hw prospects are fighting cans at this stage in their careers. You really are out of touch with reality here..

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          • nomadman
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            #35
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            To be fair though Liakhovich only fought 4 times in the last 4 1/2 years and had a .500 record in his last 4 fights.

            So even though he was a former HW titlist, lets keep it in perspective on where he actually was as a fighter when the fight happened.

            Helenius still showed good skills and no doubt is a true HW contender.
            I thought the same about Lyak when the fight was announced, but his performance on the night showed me that he still had a bit of fight in him. It was a harder fight for Helenius than many were expecting, and that was down to Lyakhovich.

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            • TheGreatA
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              #36
              Originally posted by Fooly Cooly
              I'm sure beating Sergei is quite a great indicator of his stock. I know you people haven't had a one hit wonder since Hammer of Thor, but you need to ease up on this guy. He has done nothing.

              Peter and Liahovich were done long ago.
              Nobody is making him out to be anything more than he is. It would be different if I was liking his chances against the Klitschko brothers. Arreola on the other hand is a sloppy brawler coming off a recent beating the same way as Peter, Brewster and Liakhovich were. Maybe he has a little more fight left in him and that would be interesting to see.

              Apologies if it is too offensive a thought to you that Arreola with his face first defense could be beaten by a guy who hits hard.

              It's just moderately humorous that you would criticize Helenius for facing Klitschko victims, then praise Arreola for being one.
              Last edited by TheGreatA; 09-03-2011, 05:31 AM.

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              • nomadman
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                #37
                Originally posted by TheGreatA
                Nobody is making him out to be anything more than he is. It would be different if I was liking his chances against the Klitschko brothers. Arreola on the other hand is a sloppy brawler coming off a recent beating the same way as Peter, Brewster and Liakhovich were. Maybe he has a little more fight left in him and that would be interesting to see.

                Apologies if it is too offensive a thought to you that Arreola with his face first defense could be beaten by a guy who hits hard.

                It's just moderately humorous that you would criticize Helenius for facing Klitschko victims, then praise Arreola for being one.
                True. Helenius is still very much a work in progress but whatever one may think about the state of his recent opponents you can't deny that knocking out three former champions, all of them durable, after scarcely more than 15 fight, is damned impressive and something to talk about. I like the Arreola fight because it'll force Helenius to address his problems, namely his weak jab and his tendency to coast. And also because more than likely we're going to see some brutal exchanges and a stoppage.

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                • minasyan
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                  #38
                  helenius needs to work on his footwork if he improves on that he would beat arreola very easily in my opinion

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                  • The Surgeon
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                    #39
                    The Fat Sloppy lump with no skills? Oh wait thats both of them....



                    FUCC HEAVYWEIGHTS

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                    • GoogleMe
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                      #40
                      I think Helenius needs to develop a stronger and more precise jab to win this fight, so atm I got Arreola winning.

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