Helenius vs Arreola, who takes it?

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  • TheGreatA
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    #21
    Originally posted by It's Ovah
    At the moment Helenius has relied on absorbing everything his opponent throws then coming back to knock them out. A prepared Arreola won't give him a moment's rest, but will come straight at him. That's why I like this fight: it'll give us an idea of how Helenius deals with a constant pressure fighter with a good chin. Arreola's flaws we already know. He can be outboxed and gets befuddled by movement, two things he won't encounter with Helenius. Can he withstand the sickening uppercuts and hooks that Hellboy will unleash if he spots an opening? Helenius has a brutal talent for finishing guys off that he hurts, tough durable guys like Brewster and Peter, and Arreola's no defensive genius. He will get hit, and repeatedly. But then so will Helenius. The fight might come down to something as simple as who can dish out more than the other can take?
    I agree. As a backer of Helenius I would not be too worried if he were to face Arreola since I see that as a much more favourable match-up for him than the more skilled heavyweights. Arreola has recently turned it around though and may be a more dangerous opponent that he was as 20 pounds heavier.

    The sloppy Arreola of old that we are used to seeing would get hit too much by the hard-punching Helenius. If he could tighten up his punching technique and use the guard effectively, Helenius's tendency to coast and lazily trade punches might not be the best of ideas. This is the perfect fight for him to work on those issues. It is also the perfect fight for Arreola to show he is still a force in the division.

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    • BostonGuy
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      #22
      Arreola has been fighting a bum of the month while Helenius has fought back-to-back former hw titlists. Helenius is in a different class right IMO...

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      • MajorKong
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        #23
        Arreola destroys this clumsy Eurobum.

        What has he done? Beat a couple of Klitschko victims? Arreola has far more wrinkles in his game offensively and defensively, and even if he was still fat would have his way with this viking wannabe loser.

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        • TheGreatA
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          #24
          Originally posted by Fooly Cooly
          Arreola destroys this clumsy Eurobum.

          What has he done? Beat a couple of Klitschko victims? Arreola has far more wrinkles in his game offensively and defensively, and even if he was still fat would have his way with this viking wannabe loser.
          Arreola has not even done that much. He has only beaten one Klitschko victim.

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          • BattleAxePurist
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            #25
            This is by far the best fight that can be put together in the HW division in terms of bringing back the buzz for the big guys both men will not be hesitant to mix it up and considering neither is the most fleet of foot the exchanges that'll take place should be brutal it might be cliched' but whoever has the better chin will probably come out ahead in the end.
            Helenius has the advantages to take it but can he be consistent with his workrate and use his lenght and height he needs to develop a stiff hard jab and then he'd be even more scary

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            • TheGreatA
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              #26
              Originally posted by Fooly Cooly
              Arreola has at least fought a Klitschko. Helenious hasn't come close to that.
              I'm not sure if it would improve Helenius's stock much if he fought a Klitschko and got beaten like a drum for 11 rounds.

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                #27
                Originally posted by TheGreatA
                I'm not sure if it would improve Helenius's stock much if he fought a Klitschko and got beaten like a drum for 11 rounds.
                Don't dignify this guy posts, he's obviously a troll who isn't interested in logical discourse..

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                • nomadman
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TheGreatA
                  I agree. As a backer of Helenius I would not be too worried if he were to face Arreola since I see that as a much more favourable match-up for him than the more skilled heavyweights. Arreola has recently turned it around though and may be a more dangerous opponent that he was as 20 pounds heavier.

                  The sloppy Arreola of old that we are used to seeing would get hit too much by the hard-punching Helenius. If he could tighten up his punching technique and use the guard effectively, Helenius's tendency to coast and lazily trade punches might not be the best of ideas. This is the perfect fight for him to work on those issues. It is also the perfect fight for Arreola to show he is still a force in the division.
                  It's hard to say how Nips would react to Helenius's size and power punching at this point in time. He has experience of fighting the second best big man in the game today, and even if it was a one-sided losing effort he showed the chin and the determination to keep coming forward under relentless pressure. That was a while back though, and Nips hasn't fought a high quality opponent since Adamek. Helenius would be the perfect opponent to get back into the title picture even though I'd favour the big Fin to win. He's not super fast, not super slick, stands right in front of you all night, and gives you opportunities to get off combinations. If Arreola still has aspirations to make something of himself then this is a very winnable, if dangerous, fight for him.

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                  • crold1
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                    #29
                    Does Arreola have anything remotely resembling a quality win above the B level yet?

                    Yeah.

                    Helenius.

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                    • Grinderman
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by fitefanSHO
                      Helenius is on the way up, Arreola is on the way down.

                      Helenius ftw.

                      Late TKO or decision.
                      I'll take Helenius, but Arreola is not on the way down. He's at the very least treading water, but he has taken the steps everybody kept asking for and gotten in far better shape, and has been keeping very busy against some decent journeymen like Friday Ahunanya. Give him a little credit for that.
                      Last edited by Grinderman; 09-02-2011, 09:55 PM.

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