Is "WHEN" you fight more important than "WHO" you fight????

[bojangles1987]

You are that many fans are not allowing Manny to get away with it anymore but the MEDIA still does not say a damn thing negative about Manny's choice of opponents.

What media is there for boxing anymore though? At least here in the US, there's only ESPN, and they rarely talk boxing.

[Bushbaby]

Absolutely. It is the modern day boxing 'thing to do'. Every major fighter does it now sadly, though I really don't know why you are singling out Mayweather and his fans. If anything Pac is much, much worse than Mayweather at it, especially considering he fought all the same guys Floyd did well after Floyd already beat them. Pac is quite clearly the worst culprit of this awful trend. His record and fighting name fighters who are past it, and coming off losses is utterly pathetic and it still baffles me that he isn't pulled up on it a lot more, especially with the amount of hate that Floyd gets for doing similar things, though to a much lesser degree.

When was the last time Pac fought someone coming off a career best win? He has fought a many, many fighters coming off career best (read worst) losses and knock outs. I hardly think making a thread about something Pac is quite clearly the worst culprit at, yet trying to relate it to Monee Mai and his ****** fans makes any sense.

Anyway, it is the thing for promoters to do now. Rather than make historically significant fights, as used to be the norm in boxing, it's now about getting the biggest name with the least risk, which means no matter how badly they've just lost or how many times they've lost, how old they are or how shot they are, if they are a big name we are going to see the top dogs fighting them.

While the Ortiz fight is a largely foregone conclusion, it's at the very least a breath of fresh air in that Monee Mai is fighting a young peak guy still improving that is coming off the best win of his career. Whatever else can be said, it's better than fighting 40 year old after 40 year old coming off loss after loss.

Actually, can you imagine if Mayweather fought Oscar, Hatton, Mosley, Marquez, Margarito etc after Pac had beaten, dominated or knocked them out? Everyone would completely flip out. Pac gets away with it from many people, despite it being weak as piss yet if Monee did it, he would be vilified like no one else in boxing history would have been. Quite funny what you can get away with if you act nice.

You always line ur posts with cold hard facts bro. I'd like ur opinion on something. If u choose to, I'll appreciate it. I remember when Mosley managed to last 12 with Pacman, I was thoroughly surprised & thought , well good for him. But then I came on boxing scene & these dudes just started ****ting on Mosley for not standing in front of Pacman & getting ko'd. They were like it was his fault that Pacman couldn't stop him. Now since I already knew Mosley was more shot than a stop sign in hickville, I was suprised that people were actually blaming Mosley for surviving rather than blaming Pacman's team for choosing a shot fighter to begin with, your thoughts on that please?

[bojangles1987]

You always line ur posts with cold hard facts bro. I'd like ur opinion on something. If u choose to, I'll appreciate it. I remember when Mosley managed to last 12 with Pacman, I was thoroughly surprised & thought , well good for him. But then I came on boxing scene & these dudes just started ****ting on Mosley for not standing in front of Pacman & getting ko'd. They were like it was his fault that Pacman couldn't stop him. Now since I already knew Mosley was more shot than a stop sign in hickville, I was suprised that people were actually blaming Mosley for surviving rather than blaming Pacman's team for choosing a shot fighter to begin with, your thoughts on that please?

I know you didn't ask me, but I was mad about it because the last thing I ever thought Shane Mosley would ever do was show up for a paycheck. I don't blame him for being shot, but I blame him for not trying.