Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: I Fought Floyd Jr, I Told Ortiz What Works

[The Big Dunn]

lets not compare fighters that they both have fought already to debate this because if thats what u want to do then look what happen to oscar hatton and mosley against pac. u see u lost already if u wanna compare fighters that they both have fought to debate this. manny's accuracy is nowhere near floyd? really? lol.. and you're right about manny might not be able to hit floyd that much thats why i mention he doesnt need to. floyd can hit manny 20 times while manny only get in 8 to floyd but if manny's punches is hurting floyd more what do u think is gonna happen in the later rounds?

if u put manny against tyson and manny is landing 30 punches in a round while tyson only land 5 but every punch that tyson land is making manny more weak, hurt and exhausted, what do u think is gonna happen? the weaker guy is gonna get KO or lose and thats what i see when floyd fight manny. yes i know power doesnt always get u the win, but u have to see that manny is not just some chump that wont be able to hit floyd. if any of floyds pass opponents can land im sure it wont be hard for manny to find floyd.

I think you really underestimate floyd's power. Floyd is not a one punch KO power guy. But everyone of his opponents abandon their strategy after they get hit.

Trust me the reach is the key. And floyd knows how to use it.

[iNDOLiFER]

I think you really underestimate floyd's power. Floyd is not a one punch KO power guy. But everyone of his opponents abandon their strategy after they get hit.

Trust me the reach is the key. And floyd knows how to use it.

im not doubting floyd's power, i know for a fact that manny punches harded than floyd and thats a FACT. im not saying floyd doesnt have KO power im just saying between floyd and manny, manny has the upper hand in power. and again i know floyd is great at what he does but like i mention before over and over u're counting manny out by saying oh floyd knows how to do this and that as if manny doesnt? floyd can dance around in the ring throw a few here and there but mark my word manny will land and when he does we'll see how floyd deals with manny's power.

[iNDOLiFER]

reach is key but its not gonna do u any good if your opponent walks thru it.. manny doesnt mind getting hit just so that he can deliver some of his own and we all know this, thats how he fight, he doesnt try to dodge and weave all rounds he'll take some to gain some. so floyd can keep his reach to keep manny away but i see manny walking thru it and throwing his own.

[AllEyesOpen]

The only thing that seemed to work for DLH was the 1 round he actually worked off the jab, which i think was the 6th. Ortiz doesn't use his, which is strange considering that he's right handed, you'd think he'd have wicked jab.

I think his best bet is to come out with a lot of energy and take as many of the early rounds as he can, cause once May adjusts it's all over.

[Canelo Phresh]

dont fight like i did lol

[Pugilistic™]

There's nothing Oscar can tell Ortiz to help him win.

If Oscar knew what worked to beat Floyd, he would of used it and won.

Point is, he didn't win.

[GRUSTLER]

How can you say fighters don't gas? They are human aren't they? Basketball players, football players, these guys train too. They all get tired! Why isna fighter different? I think floyds conditioning in those fights was superior but those fighters also did gas out! They got tired period! But it doesn't and shouldn't take away from floyd's win tho. He was the better fighter. Skills and condition. Floyd stood in front of Shane but only after he realized Shane had faded and could no longer get to him! Of everything I hear people say about the fight and Ortiz's chances of winning, I think they miss the obvious. Floyd is not gonna test Ortiz's power and he will as he always is, defensive. All Ortiz has to do is be busier! Just like the guys that beat Hopkins. You won't knock him out, so just outwork him. Take the decision and move on. Trying to land the big punch is why fighters lose, ask Pascal! Volume beats a defensive fighter. Then if Floyd decides to get aggressive or stand in front of him, he then will have Floyd fighting his fight! Great defensive fighters can't be beat by anyone, they beat themselves and that is in my opinion Ortiz's best chance at victory. Use Floyd's caution against him, bank early rounds and simply outwork him. Just like calzaghe and Taylor did Hopkins. It'll still be close, maybe even controversial but Ortiz can win that way

I saw the Judah, Oscar and Mosley fights homie and them dudes were more frustrated and confused then gassed. Floyd stood infront of Shane after he shook off them monster right hands Shane shook him up with. Floyd didn't back up or run around the ring. He was right there and even closed out the 2nd round strong. Hopkins gets outworked because he is a slow fighter but Floyd is mega fast and accurate counter puncher. You miss you pay. Ortiz has a shot but only if Floyd slips up and Ortiz capatilizes on it EARLY. Ortiz is not outboxing Mayweather and Floyd ain't going to try and trade punch for punch. He's going to make Ortiz miss and pay. I wish the best for Ortiz but in my opinion Floyd is going to out think him. Honestly the only fighter/boxer I think can possibly beat Floyd is Sergio Martinez at 154. But hey! More power to Victor Ortiz though but if he ain't going in the ring respecting Mayweather's skill set, then he will pay dearly. Floyd is not only defensive minded but also offensive and is very effective in both aspects. To beat Floyd you have to be a thinking fighter/boxer who can adjust on the fly.

[Boxingtech718v2]

The fact is that Floyd loses multiple rounds in all his fights. A cross dressing **** took him to a split decision. And Floyd is no where near as skilled as he was back then. If Ortiz gets off first and throws combinations for 12 rounds he'll win this fight easy. Floyd opened at a 12-1. Hes now at 4-1 meaning big money is on Ortiz.

Ortiz is gonna win this fight.

That's great news I hope more people ride the Ortiz bandwagon and even the odds some more.

[GRUSTLER]

exactly! on paper floyd outwork manny but when they fight its not gonna be based on what it says on the paper. punches that land will be real and u will be able to feel it LOL.. lakers have a perfect record one year until they play against one of the weakest team and got beat that night. how did that happen? everything it says on paper for the lakers is untouchable and u would assume that they would murder the weakest team but instead they lost. u see u cant always bet on what it says on paper.

I think inorder to see how a Pac/Floyd fight would go or if you wanted to pick a winner in a potential match up, a person would have to compare how much Manny gets hit in his fights against slower and less defensive fighters. Clottey ****** Manny up and he didn't even want to fight back. Cotto put some knots on Pac's head too and Margarito had homie curled up, pissing blood for a week. Floyd may not hit super hard but his connect stats are undeniable and Manny gets hit on the regular. You add in that Floyd rarely gets hit and uses defense better than any fighter to date and Manny doesn't utilize defense and can't really work the ring as we all witnessed in the Mosley fight. Just by that alone I can see Floyd smacking Pac up and neutralizing his offense with accurate counter punching. Mayweather is a lil bigger, has a longer reach and is on par with Pac speed wise if not faster. For the record, you can't compare Mayweather with the Lakers because Mayweather ain't lose yet.

[The Noose]

Piss off Oscar!

U gave advice to Hatton also. And probably to Mosely. And every other fighter Floyd has toyed with.