Serious question, is Mayweather taking a big risk of getting severely damaged?

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    #31
    Mayweather hasn't fought anyone legit since De La Hoya.. that's a fact.

    It's also a fact that he's avoided a Prime Mosley and cherry picked him at 38, ducked Cotto, ran from Margarito and is hiding from #1 P4P Manny Pacquiao. It's also a fact that whenever Floyd cherrypicks an opponent and feels there is a guy he will be forced to fight, he takes a vacation. Happened after the Oscar fight and is happening again constantly.

    Facts, facts, facts.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Las Vegas
      Mayweather hasn't fought anyone legit since De La Hoya.. that's a fact.

      It's also a fact that he's avoided a Prime Mosley and cherry picked him at 38, ducked Cotto, ran from Margarito and is hiding from #1 P4P Manny Pacquiao. It's also a fact that whenever Floyd cherrypicks an opponent and feels there is a guy he will be forced to fight, he takes a vacation. Happened after the Oscar fight and is happening again constantly.

      Facts, facts, facts.
      But yet Pac fights him after Floyd routes him?! Btw rookie, Floyd wanted Mosley for years before he made the move to ww...

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        #33
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        But, you are implying that Mayweather hasn't fought anyone legit for years. Are you not? Again, correct me If I'm wrong.
        I never said that, your making **** up. I said he hasn't been in a competitive fight. You are indeed dead wrong. Floyd has not been in a competitive fight in years is not the same as being in a legit fight. Your starting **** & making stuff up as you go. I said competitive, not legitamate. if you think they're 1 & the same, that's your problem, but don't push it off on me.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Bushbaby
          I never said that, your making **** up. I said he hasn't been in a competitive fight. You are indeed dead wrong. Floyd has not been in a competitive fight in years is not the same as being in a legit fight. Your starting **** & making stuff up as you go. I said competitive, not legitamate. if you think they're 1 & the same, that's your problem, but don't push it off on me.
          Why are you getting so defensive? I am asking you a question in which I am openly saying correct me If I'm wrong as I may well be.

          I didn't say you said that.. I am asking you what you mean by your statment..

          Oh ok, I misunderstood what you said. (Which is why I asked you in the first place) Sorry about that.

          Yeah, I agree. Floyd hasn't been in a competitive fight for a long time. Not sure what that has to do with a fight being a risk, though. A risky fight is one that a fighter and people believe willl be a hard fight. Something can be seen as risky (like Mosley) and end up not being difficult.

          I personally don't consider this fight risky. The only fights for Floyd I would consider risky are Pacquaio or Martinez.

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            #35
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Why are you getting so defensive? I am asking you a question in which I am openly saying correct me If I'm wrong as I may well be.

            I didn't say you said that.. I am asking you what you mean by your statment..

            Oh ok, I misunderstood what you said. (Which is why I asked you in the first place) Sorry about that.

            Yeah, I agree. Floyd hasn't been in a competitive fight for a long time. Not sure what that has to do with a fight being a risk, though. A risky fight is one that a fighter and people believe willl be a hard fight. Something can be seen as risky (like Mosley) and end up not being difficult.

            I personally don't consider this fight risky. The only fights for Floyd I would consider risky are Pacquaio or Martinez.

            I'm defensive because I know what i said. I said competitive. But I gave Floyd his props after. I am not strugg. I say what I feel & give props where it's due. This fight is risky imo because Ortiz is better than Marquez, Mosley & maybe Hatton when Floyd fought them. He's been off too long & had what 2 fights in the last 4 years? And both guys weren't competitive. Floyd is good, but time waits for no man.

            BTW, I think that Martinez beats Floyd & Floyd embarrases Pacman. Mosley was shot & old but moved well enough to make pacman look bad. Floyd is too smart, & he'll make Pacman look foolish.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Bushbaby
              I'm defensive because I know what i said. I said competitive. But I gave Floyd his props after. I am not strugg. I say what I feel & give props where it's due. This fight is risky imo because Ortiz is better than Marquez, Mosley & maybe Hatton when Floyd fought them. He's been off too long & had what 2 fights in the last 4 years? And both guys weren't competitive. Floyd is good, but time waits for no man.

              BTW, I think that Martinez beats Floyd & Floyd embarrases Pacman. Mosley was shot & old but moved well enough to make pacman look bad. Floyd is too smart, & he'll make Pacman look foolish.
              And I'm not telling you what you said. I am asking you what you mean by it.

              We have established I misunderstood and that you were not implying what I thought you were to which I apolgised for.

              Not entirely sure what the issue is here.

              I don't believe Ortiz is a tougher fight than Hatton. It's tougher than Marque and maybe Mosley, though.

              I agree with you're last comment except I lean on Mayweather to beat Martine also IMO.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Las Vegas
                These are big factors that people are downplaying tremendously.

                Ortiz is no washed up over the hill fighter.. he is nearing his prime, if he's not already on it and the guy is skilled and talented. Mix that with power, determination and huger and you got a killer combination.

                You put him up against an overrated 34 year old fighter who hasn't fought in about a year and you got yourself a pretty good chance at pulling the upset.
                So you're telling me that Floyd is overrated? Where do you people come from? Why is it cool to constantly try to diminish this man? Im really getting sick of this, because deep down we all know, it all comes down to the nations hating black men. Simple as that.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Las Vegas
                  Serious question, is Mayweather at 34 a tad too old for a 24 year old aggresive fighter like Ortiz? Specially after ANOTHER LONG LAYOFF?

                  Do you think it will finally take a toll on him.. specialy when he's made such a risky and bold move in facing a guy with the speed, power and relentlessness of a Victor Ortiz?

                  Discuss?


                  Lol he soul ****d your boy after a 24 month layoff. That's exactly 2 years. I mean I love JMM but he got humiliated. Didn't win a single round. Is that why you hate Floyd so much? did you cry? or maybe you are new to the sport of boxing.
                  Yeah ofc Floyd can lose as can anyone. But for some reason do layoffs not effect Floyd the same way as many fighters.
                  Last edited by Mohammedini; 08-30-2011, 02:12 PM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mohammedini
                    Lol he soul ****d your boy after a 24 month layoff. That's exactly 2 years. I mean I love JMM but he got humiliated. Didn't win a single round. Is that why you hate Floyd so much? did you cry? or maybe you are new to the sport of boxing.
                    Yeah ofc Floyd can lose as can anyone. But for some reason do layoffs not effect Floyd the same way as many fighters.
                    He made him blow up 12+ pounds for his FIRST fight at WW and then he cheated him on the scales by coming in 2 pounds over 146. That fight was a fraud and everyone knows it.

                    Things like that is why Floyd has become the joke of the sport and is clowned by everyone.

                    WHat do you think?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Las Vegas
                      He made him blow up 12+ pounds for his FIRST fight at WW and then he cheated him on the scales by coming in 2 pounds over 146. That fight was a fraud and everyone knows it.

                      Things like that is why Floyd has become the joke of the sport and is clowned by everyone.

                      WHat do you think?
                      Dude listen just deal with it. FLoyd beats manny at any weight, any time, anywhere. Floyd has speed and reach, the two things JMM can't deal with. Its like AAron Pryor and ALexis ARguello. Blame the man in heaven.

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