Comments Thread For: Team Margarito: If Cotto Wants 150, Let Him Go To 147

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Thats not proof !!! Stuff happens to guys ears all the time ask Evaner Holyfield.

[-Johannes-]

Cotto is the champion and margacheato don't deserve a title shot...HE CAN ASK WHAT HE WANTS

Try harder, those wraps were signed and retured after the fight and nothing came out. If Lujan's ripped ear is the best you got, I recommend you watching a lot more boxing.

Go see the cuts caused in the Marciano vs Charles and Ali vs Cooper fights.

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U conttradict urself now. Which is why he fought Cotto but not Martinez. And he made Cotto only come down 2pounds. He made Margarito come down 4

Listen to yourself willya ?

* " which is why he fought Cotto but not Martinez "

* " he made Cotto only come down 2pounds "

* " He made Margarito come down 4 "

Were you actually attempting to defend Pac with those comments ?

FACT: True champions do not attempt to disadvantage their opponents.

Tell me something.....
..... why would a true P4P fighter need a catch-weight ?

I will wait.....

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Cotto just went hollywood on me ....c'mon son...leave that 150 **** for the clowns....now on the flip....Cotto lost his WW strap to Manny and wasn't allowed to weigh in at the limit....145 was the catch.....so imo Arum owes Cotto a couple of pounds....it is what it is!!

not really a Pac follower as far as his titles and other ****....just like to watch him scrap...but it JUST hit me that he won his 147 strap and 154 strap at catchweights....titles 7 and 8 came at 145 and 150...WOW!!!....and the nerve of SOME of you to rate him higher than B.Hop....no way is Manny the greatest active fighter in the game atm...no way!!!!!!!!

EXACTLY !!

Good post bro.

Why the *** would a genuine P4P fighter need a catch-weight ?

Let alone fight for a vacant JMW title using 8oz gloves.

Hopkins..... ATG, living legend, the greatest fighter of our era.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Cotto just went hollywood on me ....c'mon son...leave that 150 **** for the clowns....now on the flip....Cotto lost his WW strap to Manny and wasn't allowed to weigh in at the limit....145 was the catch.....so imo Arum owes Cotto a couple of pounds....it is what it is!!

not really a Pac follower as far as his titles and other ****....just like to watch him scrap...but it JUST hit me that he won his 147 strap and 154 strap at catchweights....titles 7 and 8 came at 145 and 150...WOW!!!....and the nerve of SOME of you to rate him higher than B.Hop....no way is Manny the greatest active fighter in the game atm...no way!!!!!!!!

EXACTLY !!

Good post bro.

Why the *** would a genuine P4P fighter need a catch-weight ?

Let alone fight for a vacant JMW title using 8oz gloves.

Hopkins..... ATG, living legend, the greatest fighter of our era.

LMFAO @ Hopkins being the greatest fighter of our era crap. Just so you know Hopkins fought some guys coming up more than one division to fight him. That's just as bad as the catch-weight bull****. You can give me all this cop out with his age bull**** but that ain't gonna work. He's an ATG no doubt but to call him a legend and greatest of this era is just laughable.

[Beater_of_ass]

Man you really must be ******ed. Who said Cox gets 50% and directv gets 50%. I know its hard for someone with your limited mental capacity but I said the cable providers (I named cox, directv, and dishnetwork, etc) goet 50%. I didn't day EACH one gets 50%. I named 3 providers. I said combined the get 50% lol. U really aren't the sharpest tool in the shed. Each rpivdier gets 50% of each ppv they sell each ppv they sell. That equals 50% of the toal ppv revenue. I never said Marquez gets $5 per pay per view. U have a lack of reading skills as well. I said they get $1-5 per ppv sell deending on what is negotiated. And not for every ppv buy. Only the nes after theuy hit a threshold. Manny Pacquiao gets a bonus after hitting a certain threshold. Your lack of brain power can't comprehend that.

You said how can Pacquiao get the same ppv% as Marquez? Easy u moron. JMM will have a 5million guarantee while Pac will have a 20 mil guarantee like he did vs Mosley. U understand now? So Pac will make 20-25mil while JMM will get 5-7mil. Just like Cotto got 1mil and Mayo got 400k. Now do u understand?

One more break down. 50% cable provider. Then 50% of the other 50% goes to hbo r showtime. Then the rest to promoter to pay fighters and profits for themselves

I couldn't stay away, I'm having too much fun. Again, no links so anything you say means nothing.

Proof Mayorga got 500k.

JMM is getting $5 for every PPV over 700,000 until that point he gets jack ****. Proof.

How much proof have I provided in comparison to yours? Really, who cares about what the people make, you're just grasping at straws to get something right, anything. I never said Pacquiao got the same as Marquez, it was a rhetorical (hopefully you know what that means) question. Now I really am done, again provide some links or GTFO.

[Beater_of_ass]

LMFAO @ Hopkins being the greatest fighter of our era crap. Just so you know Hopkins fought some guys coming up more than one division to fight him. That's just as bad as the catch-weight bull****. You can give me all this cop out with his age bull**** but that ain't gonna work. He's an ATG no doubt but to call him a legend and greatest of this era is just laughable.

I have to agree, he lost to RJJ in his prime and his biggest win fights were against WW's in Trinidad and Oscar. He also lost to Calzaghe, and don't use the "Hopkins" was old bit because so was Joe. He's a great fighter but I Manny or Pac is, they simple did more.

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Originally Posted by Eaner0919

simple question

for those of you who support Cotto with this and this is true.

most if not all of you think the only reason Margarito won was because his wraps were loaded. It has been mentioned here gazillions of times.

if that is true then why the need to not only boil down Margarito, but also keep him from hydrating?

if indeed the ONLY reason Margarito won was because of what was in his wraps then shouldn't Cotto be able to win this time without trying to take advantages going into the fight?

That can be played both ways, if Marg felt he won without cheating why does the weight have to be at 154? He fought Manny at 150, and Cotto before at 147 now he needs all the weight advantage he can get? As for my view, sure Cotto doesn't need any of these advantages why should he be the bigger man? I never understood that, for example when I play basketball I don't play dirty or rough it up but if some guy plays like that I got no problem playing that game. I see Cotto in the same light, he is a fair guy but if you do him dirty he'll return the favor.

Solid point right there.

Catch-weights are ****, and should be completely abolished.

But right now, Manny Pacquiao is preparing to fight a near 40yo midget who is jumping TWO DIVISIONS to welter.

1.) Koncz admitted that they have ducked JMM since 2008 because "Marquez has Manny's number"

2.) About 18 months ago, THE ENTIRE WORLD saw that Marquez cannot hang at welter

3.) Now, suddenly..... Pac wants to fight Marquez..... at welter, of course

4.) Manny recently admitted that his best weight is 140

5.) A catch-weight is where two fighters meet at middle-ground, to ensure a fairer contest. Pacquiao conceded a weight that he has never actually made himself Clearly, they are attempting to drag Marquez as far away from his most comfortable weight as possible

6.) The rumor about the catch-weight demand for Cotto is completely unsubstantiated, in fact, a number of posters have suggested that the fight is signed already, for 154

So.....

it truly amazes me that there is MUCH MORE ridicule directed toward Cotto because of an unsubstantiated rumor, than there is toward Pacquiao who has made an art-form out of selecting old, faded, shop-worn, opponents, and disadvantaging them on the scale.

How the *** can you clowns continue to support Manny Pacquiao's ch1cken-****, b1tch-made, behavior ?

On this thread alone, we have MANY Cotto fans (actual boxing fans) deriding Miguel for the (still unsubstantiated) catch-weight demand.....

..... but I have never heard one pacfan complain about the way that cherry-picking ch1chen-**** b1tch has manipulated Marquez/Mosley/Margarito/Cotto, etc.

It is not only the non-boxing pacfans, why do you genuine pacfans and genuine boxing fans accept that rubbish from that over-rated hypejob?

The fkn Manny-circus

[LaMigra]

Interesting how so many glorify Manny's career and allude to Manny as the p4p champ regardless of catchweights etc. I would like to see the fight at 147 period. 154 is NOT Cotto's best weight and favors the taller Margarito who is a true Jr Middle.

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Originally Posted by Eaner0919

simple question

for those of you who support Cotto with this and this is true.

most if not all of you think the only reason Margarito won was because his wraps were loaded. It has been mentioned here gazillions of times.

if that is true then why the need to not only boil down Margarito, but also keep him from hydrating?

if indeed the ONLY reason Margarito won was because of what was in his wraps then shouldn't Cotto be able to win this time without trying to take advantages going into the fight?



Solid point right there.

Catch-weights are ****, and should be completely abolished.

But right now, Manny Pacquiao is preparing to fight a near 40yo midget who is jumping TWO DIVISIONS to welter.

1.) Koncz admitted that they have ducked JMM since 2008 because "Marquez has Manny's number"

2.) About 18 months ago, THE ENTIRE WORLD saw that Marquez cannot hang at welter

3.) Now, suddenly..... Pac wants to fight Marquez..... at welter, of course

4.) Manny recently admitted that his best weight is 140

5.) A catch-weight is where two fighters meet at middle-ground, to ensure a fairer contest. Pacquiao conceded a weight that he has never actually made himself Clearly, they are attempting to drag Marquez as far away from his most comfortable weight as possible

6.) The rumor about the catch-weight demand for Cotto is completely unsubstantiated, in fact, a number of posters have suggested that the fight is signed already, for 154

So.....

it truly amazes me that there is MUCH MORE ridicule directed toward Cotto because of an unsubstantiated rumor, than there is toward Pacquiao who has made an art-form out of selecting old, faded, shop-worn, opponents, and disadvantaging them on the scale.

How the *** can you clowns continue to support Manny Pacquiao's ch1cken-****, b1tch-made, behavior ?

On this thread alone, we have MANY Cotto fans (actual boxing fans) deriding Miguel for the (still unsubstantiated) catch-weight demand.....

..... but I have never heard one pacfan complain about the way that cherry-picking ch1chen-**** b1tch has manipulated Marquez/Mosley/Margarito/Cotto, etc.

It is not only the non-boxing pacfans, why do you genuine pacfans and genuine boxing fans accept that rubbish from that over-rated hypejob?

The fkn Manny-circus

Thats right, lets bash Cotto, even though the rumor is unsubstantiated, and Cotto has no history of attempting to disadvantage opponents.... but lets whole-heartedly endorse Pacquiao, who has made an art-form out of disadvantaging opponents.

Ya dumb cvnts.