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  • Originally posted by killakali View Post
    Google it. Surprising but true
    No it's not.

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    • Originally posted by killakali View Post
      Google it. Surprising but true
      No, it didnt. It only did 500K wich is still freaking big numbers!

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      • Originally posted by killakali View Post
        Actually it helps my cases. Think about it. Cotto vs a shot Mayorga did 200k. Marquez vs a shot Diaz did more than Cotto (slightly) and B-Hop vs a way shot Roy Jones did almost as much Cotto7iMayorga. I don't have the Moralez-Maidana numbers but I bet that was close as well. And BHop-RJJ was only distributed by HBO. No marketing push as they were against the fight and it still almost equaled Cotto-Mayorga.
        Me personally am not a #s guy when it comes to the sport. I mean anyone can do the leg work. i'm just not that interested. All the fighters you've mentioned are for the most part name fighters. Diaz not so much and I wouldn't call him shot. As I suggested maybe ask Gino Ross who's done countless threads on PPV #s. Mind you all #s will differ from 1 mouth or publication to the other.

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        • Originally posted by killakali View Post
          In the words of Roger Mayweather u don't know ish about boxing.
          When I get in front of a computer I will get u links. Your numbers are still off. Mayweather-marquez did 1.2million. U said 1million. Don't u remember how people were talking about how Manny barely edged Floyd with the Manny-Cotto and Floyd-JMM fights. Also Cotto-Margarito did 450k. Cotto-Mosley was under 400k. U also left out Marquez's fights vs Casamyor and Barrera which were ppv.

          As far as Cotto getting 40% of total PPV u are either on crack or just don't understand. The cable rpovder (like Cox, directv,dishnetwork, etc) gets half. Then HBO or Showtime takes half of the 50%that was remaining leaving 25% for Top Rank. They make their profit plus pay for the uindercard, all the expenses (flying in fighters, food, hotels etc) and they give the man event fghters a small cut after a certain amount of ppvs have been sold. For the record Cotto made 1mil and Mayorga made 400k. Go to Nevada Athletic State Commission website. Its public record.

          Have we added in the millions spent on advertising? The commercials etc? The costs of Top Rank's staff? PR people, matchmakers, Arum etc? All the commercials weren't on Showtime. They were on ESPN and other stations as well. Magazine adds. The refs, security, judges, etc have to be paid. Son u just got owned.
          I'm not going to go through every fight, I have a life. If you aren't typing all this at a computer then you have no life, because I wouldn't do all this **** on my droid, nice try though. My numbers aren't off I actually did the research which obviously you didn't I've found links to back up my statements and you still can't. Mayweater/JMM did 1 million period. Here is another link you dumb **** from ESPN BACKING ME UP. Twice now I've proved your numbers to be BS and you keep trying, its sad.

          Also, how can Cox and DirecTV get 50% each? That makes up 100% thus no one would get money its on both cable providers. What about Dish Network, my God you really are ****** this time I like really believe as in under 70 IQ. Showtime pays DirecTV/Cox for the channel, its included in the cost that is why SHOWTIME or HBO get a bulk of the money. I'm not arguing what they made for the fight, a simple google search would show you that once AGAIN you are wrong. Just try it, Cotto made 1 million and Mayorga 500k seriously you're just talking out of your ass.

          Also a lot of money does go into the advertising, but there is more money to be made than just from PPV you feeble minded peasant. How about the advertising that gets put on the ring, fighters clothes, food and drink sales all this gets accounted for and again the GATE. So please tell me if Marquez and Margarito each get 10% of the cut from each PPV over 700k (or $5) then why would the A side get even less than that? Jesus Christ, do just a minimal amount of actually research and you'll see what I mean. Type a 4 page response if you want, but I certainly lived up to my screen name in this thread, peace.

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          • straight up ***** move on cotto's part.... cotto's a chubby 154.... he'll still make 147....

            they know margarito struggled making 150 against pacquiao.... he was completely shredded at that weigh in, in fact he made pacquiao look a little soft....

            margarito might well struggle to make 154 after this last layoff... i see him moving up to 160.

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            • Why not at 150.... cry babies .......now is the champion turn.... to ask for what he wants .....remember ..margacheato he got plaster paris in his last fight with cotto
              Last edited by lluisone; 08-24-2011, 04:11 PM.

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              • Originally posted by lluisone View Post
                Why not at 150.... cry babies .......now is the champion turn.... to ask for what he wants .....remember ..margacheato he got plaster paris in his last fight with cotto
                Because Cotto is a legitimate 154lb champion and has defended his title at 154.

                Hey, I've been looking all over for the proof that Margarito used anything illegal in his wraps during his first fight with Cotto. If you find it, we can share the profits this information will bring.

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                • Cotto is the champion and margacheato don't deserve a title shot...HE CAN ASK WHAT HE WANTS

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                    • Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
                      I'm not going to go through every fight, I have a life. If you aren't typing all this at a computer then you have no life, because I wouldn't do all this **** on my droid, nice try though. My numbers aren't off I actually did the research which obviously you didn't I've found links to back up my statements and you still can't. Mayweater/JMM did 1 million period. Here is another link you dumb **** from ESPN BACKING ME UP. Twice now I've proved your numbers to be BS and you keep trying, its sad.

                      Also, how can Cox and DirecTV get 50% each? That makes up 100% thus no one would get money its on both cable providers. What about Dish Network, my God you really are ****** this time I like really believe as in under 70 IQ. Showtime pays DirecTV/Cox for the channel, its included in the cost that is why SHOWTIME or HBO get a bulk of the money. I'm not arguing what they made for the fight, a simple google search would show you that once AGAIN you are wrong. Just try it, Cotto made 1 million and Mayorga 500k seriously you're just talking out of your ass.

                      Also a lot of money does go into the advertising, but there is more money to be made than just from PPV you feeble minded peasant. How about the advertising that gets put on the ring, fighters clothes, food and drink sales all this gets accounted for and again the GATE. So please tell me if Marquez and Margarito each get 10% of the cut from each PPV over 700k (or $5) then why would the A side get even less than that? Jesus Christ, do just a minimal amount of actually research and you'll see what I mean. Type a 4 page response if you want, but I certainly lived up to my screen name in this thread, peace.
                      Man you really must be ******ed. Who said Cox gets 50% and directv gets 50%. I know its hard for someone with your limited mental capacity but I said the cable providers (I named cox, directv, and dishnetwork, etc) goet 50%. I didn't day EACH one gets 50%. I named 3 providers. I said combined the get 50% lol. U really aren't the sharpest tool in the shed. Each rpivdier gets 50% of each ppv they sell each ppv they sell. That equals 50% of the toal ppv revenue. I never said Marquez gets $5 per pay per view. U have a lack of reading skills as well. I said they get $1-5 per ppv sell deending on what is negotiated. And not for every ppv buy. Only the nes after theuy hit a threshold. Manny Pacquiao gets a bonus after hitting a certain threshold. Your lack of brain power can't comprehend that.

                      You said how can Pacquiao get the same ppv% as Marquez? Easy u moron. JMM will have a 5million guarantee while Pac will have a 20 mil guarantee like he did vs Mosley. U understand now? So Pac will make 20-25mil while JMM will get 5-7mil. Just like Cotto got 1mil and Mayo got 400k. Now do u understand?

                      One more break down. 50% cable provider. Then 50% of the other 50% goes to hbo r showtime. Then the rest to promoter to pay fighters and profits for themselves

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