Boxing's Most Prominent Division is 154

[BoxingGenius27]

wait I thought JCC Jr was the 160lb champion? is there another JCC Jr campaigning at 54 I haven't heard about?

Ewww you're funny man.

He can make 154, just like Martinez can.

[Barry Halls]

Ewww you're funny man.

He can make 154, just like Martinez can.

well if thats the case, we can count floyd and manny too?

And we can for sure count montiel and hasegawa in our bantam-tourney.

I don't know. Don't seem realistic to include titleholders at 160 who would basically only move down for superfights.

[Eaner0919]

Ewww you're funny man.

He can make 154, just like Martinez can.

no

he

can't

stop acting like you know this sport man it's embarrassing

the man barely makes 160

[Kagami Taiga]

its easily 118 imo. that division is really stacked all of the top 10 would probably normally be champions and the top 4 or 5 are much better than the champions in the divisions surrounding them.

[MotorCityJaguar]

The flyweight division is underrated here... deserve to be mentioned among 140, 118, 168, 154, and 126

Wonjongkam
Segura
Viloria
Hernan Marquez
Concepcion
Mthalane
Miranda
Sosa
Tamara
Reveco
I think Chocolatito Gonzalez will fight at 112 very soon

I don't think flyweight is the best division, but there are many good fighters here

[BoxingGenius27]

http://queensberry-rules.com/2011-articles/july/grading-the-boxing-divisions-2011.html

JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHT

Now: A-

It’s not overloaded with monster talents. But junior middle gets its points off depth, the semi-inhabitance of a few stars and the potential for exciting fights. Saul Alvarez and Miguel Cotto are the big draws and seem to be staying put for the time being, while middleweight champ Sergio Martinez can voyage downward if he wants. Then check out the rankings from one to eight – is there anybody in there who can’t beat anybody else on any given night? And it sure helps that Pawel Wolak-Delvin Rodriguez, probably the leading Fight of the Year contender, happened here.

Future: B+

There’s nobody worthwhile at welter who could give the division a boost, and no sure thing in the prospect ranks – Omar Henry? Javier Molina? Cotto probably will be retired sooner rather than later. But things should stay fairly constant outside of that.



BANTAMWEIGHT

Now: B+

The departure of a couple bantam talents and action heroes hurts the division some, but for now, it’s still the home of Donaire and the participants in the Showtime tournament like Joseph Agbeko, Abner Mares and Vic Darchinyan. Throw in a couple other folk like Anselmo Moreno and Koki Kameda, and there’s some talent and sizzle left.

Future: C+

When Donaire departs, the division takes a big hit. I think he’s probably only around for one more fight, truth be told. Junior bantamweight just below is a disaster, and I’m not of the mind that prospects like Chris Avalos or Leo Santa Cruz help that much, either.



SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT

Now: B+

Super middle is finally slowing down a little. But we still have the Super Six tournament finale between Ward and Froch, with the winner likely to face Bute. That’s a great start. And the division still has some viable contenders after that, like Mikkel Kessler and the introduction of Kelly Pavlik, potentially. It’s been fun watching the division play out via the Super Six, but for a variety of reasons, I think the ride is about to end.

Future: C-

With Ward and maybe others leaving soon and most of the big fights exhausted, the division is going to take a big dip, even if a youngster like Edwin Rodriguez or George Groves steps up, because I don’t think either of those talents can replace what’s departing on a one-for-one basis. Some of the division’s top young talents, like Marcus Johnson and James DeGale, have already had setbacks and maybe they can rebound, but they will still be rebuilding somewhat this time next year.


There's plenty more links where this came from, but you guys will probably discredit them also.


You guys are a some serious circle jerkers that piggy back off each other's opinions with Mak leading the way followed by IronDan following his lead. Man up and stand on your own two. Not what the next man thinks.

[Barry Halls]

BoxingGenius;

Thats just an opinion on a blog. What makes his opinions worth more than posters on this board? Because he has a blog?

What he writes is not a secret. We know which names are available at 154, and at least I feel bantam is a better division.
154 wins some extra points for being far from "solved" but they lack fighters of the highest level.

I think you're being a bit unfair. A few posters in this thread have clearly stated why they feel what they do.

And if we're going to take a blogpost as gospel, heres what he says about featherweight.

FEATHERWEIGHT

Now: A-

One twenty six still hosts pound-for-pound level boxers like YURIORKIS GAMBOA! and potentially Juan Manuel Lopez, if he can return to form from his first loss. Both are action stars in a division that has a bunch of them, like Orlando Salido, Daniel Ponce De Leon and Jhonny Gonzalez. It’s not as good a division as it was before Gamboa-Lopez got spoiled by terrible decisions at Top Rank, but it might be the best we have right now, with any number of appealing match-ups and men who, with the exception of Gamboa-Lopez, are actually fighting each other.

Future: A-

Lopez’ fat ass has been talking for a while about leaving soon, and I think he will. Nonito Donaire is really not far away from joining, though; I wouldn’t be surprised if he was here by the end of 2012. And I do think Gamboa sticks around, so if we get Donaire-Gamboa anytime soon, look out. On the prospect front, Gary Russell, Jr. is super talent who could make a move to contender next year. Young Mikey Garcia is already there, and maybe prospect Roberto Marroquin can rebound from a loss.

[IronDanHamza]

http://queensberry-rules.com/2011-ar...ions-2011.html


JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHT

Now: A-

It’s not overloaded with monster talents. But junior middle gets its points off depth, the semi-inhabitance of a few stars and the potential for exciting fights. Saul Alvarez and Miguel Cotto are the big draws and seem to be staying put for the time being, while middleweight champ Sergio Martinez can voyage downward if he wants. Then check out the rankings from one to eight – is there anybody in there who can’t beat anybody else on any given night? And it sure helps that Pawel Wolak-Delvin Rodriguez, probably the leading Fight of the Year contender, happened here.

Future: B+

There’s nobody worthwhile at welter who could give the division a boost, and no sure thing in the prospect ranks – Omar Henry? Javier Molina? Cotto probably will be retired sooner rather than later. But things should stay fairly constant outside of that.



BANTAMWEIGHT

Now: B+

The departure of a couple bantam talents and action heroes hurts the division some, but for now, it’s still the home of Donaire and the participants in the Showtime tournament like Joseph Agbeko, Abner Mares and Vic Darchinyan. Throw in a couple other folk like Anselmo Moreno and Koki Kameda, and there’s some talent and sizzle left.

Future: C+

When Donaire departs, the division takes a big hit. I think he’s probably only around for one more fight, truth be told. Junior bantamweight just below is a disaster, and I’m not of the mind that prospects like Chris Avalos or Leo Santa Cruz help that much, either.



SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT

Now: B+

Super middle is finally slowing down a little. But we still have the Super Six tournament finale between Ward and Froch, with the winner likely to face Bute. That’s a great start. And the division still has some viable contenders after that, like Mikkel Kessler and the introduction of Kelly Pavlik, potentially. It’s been fun watching the division play out via the Super Six, but for a variety of reasons, I think the ride is about to end.

Future: C-

With Ward and maybe others leaving soon and most of the big fights exhausted, the division is going to take a big dip, even if a youngster like Edwin Rodriguez or George Groves steps up, because I don’t think either of those talents can replace what’s departing on a one-for-one basis. Some of the division’s top young talents, like Marcus Johnson and James DeGale, have already had setbacks and maybe they can rebound, but they will still be rebuilding somewhat this time next year.


There's plenty more links where this came from, but you guys will probably discredit them also.


You guys are a some serious circle jerkers that piggy back off each other's opinions with Mak leading the way followed by IronDan following his lead. Man up and stand on your own two. Not what the next man thinks.

I'm sure Mak will tell you I have been following the 118 Division just as long as he has.

I have been saying it's the best Division in Boxiing currently for a long time.

[BoxingGenius27]

BoxingGenius;

Thats just an opinion on a blog. What makes his opinions worth more than posters on this board? Because he has a blog?

What he writes is not a secret. We know which names are available at 154, and at least I feel bantam is a better division.
154 wins some extra points for being far from "solved" but they lack fighters of the highest level.

I think you're being a bit unfair. A few posters in this thread have clearly stated why they feel what they do.

And if we're going to take a blogpost as gospel, heres what he says about featherweight.

FEATHERWEIGHT

Now: A-

One twenty six still hosts pound-for-pound level boxers like YURIORKIS GAMBOA! and potentially Juan Manuel Lopez, if he can return to form from his first loss. Both are action stars in a division that has a bunch of them, like Orlando Salido, Daniel Ponce De Leon and Jhonny Gonzalez. It’s not as good a division as it was before Gamboa-Lopez got spoiled by terrible decisions at Top Rank, but it might be the best we have right now, with any number of appealing match-ups and men who, with the exception of Gamboa-Lopez, are actually fighting each other.

Future: A-

Lopez’ fat ass has been talking for a while about leaving soon, and I think he will. Nonito Donaire is really not far away from joining, though; I wouldn’t be surprised if he was here by the end of 2012. And I do think Gamboa sticks around, so if we get Donaire-Gamboa anytime soon, look out. On the prospect front, Gary Russell, Jr. is super talent who could make a move to contender next year. Young Mikey Garcia is already there, and maybe prospect Roberto Marroquin can rebound from a loss.

I can find plenty of more credible sources. It's not just what he says, that was just a starting point.

But the fact that a bunch of grown men stand around circle jerking each other and getting stronger off each stroke says something.

I'll post another valid link, but what's the point if you guys are going to try to discredit it. It's cool though. I stand on my own two. Can't say the same about others.

[Barry Halls]

I can find plenty of more credible sources. It's not just what he says, that was just a starting point.

Well, all the sources you will find is just opinions. Just like the posters on this board.

Everyone will prefer one type of fighter over another. No one can prove that Pac is more fun to watch than Floyd because It's all about preferences.

But the fact that a bunch of grown men stand around circle jerking each other and getting stronger off each stroke says something.

I'll post another valid link, but what's the point if you guys are going to try to discredit it. It's cool though. I stand on my own two. Can't say the same about others.

If a weightclass is popular and houses very interesting and exciting fighters, then a lot of posters will say that weightclass is the best. It's not about being "original" or following the herd.

It's as simple as to look at the divisions and evaluate which is more stacked or offer more interesting matchups. And thats what makes it obvious to a lot of us that bantam is a better class than 154 is. It's not about standing on your own two feets at all.

Nchristo and IronDanHamza is two of the absolutely best and most unbiased posters on this entire forum. To dismiss them as circle jerks is a bit absurd to me.