For those of you who question Ortiz as an opponent.

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  • STRUGG
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    #31
    Originally posted by Clyde Barrow
    Ortiz is there, holds a title, and Pac-PBF still isn't happening. Not much to question really. It was the only fight PBF could make for his comeback.
    just because floyd ...........retires most of the time......................doesnt mean we should cut him some slack for his obvious cherry picks..............

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    • Mr Randy Watson
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      #32
      "Mosley was never really that great to start with."

      shot all ur credibility.

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      • $mannyFresh
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        #33
        Anyone discrediting Ortiz as an opponent is doing it based on instinct and nothing else.

        I see how easy it is to bash on anything Floyd does but if you step back and look at his comp in the past few years, it has actually been pretty damn solid.

        But, PBF had to make himself hated to sell his fights as well as he has--considering his style--so he can't complain too much about it. He just has to accept that a big part of his check is being paid for by people who want so badly to see him lose.

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          #34
          garbage fight......................maidanas son is complete cherrypick...................

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            #35
            Originally posted by $mannyFresh
            Anyone discrediting Ortiz as an opponent is doing it based on instinct and nothing else.

            I see how easy it is to bash on anything Floyd does but if you step back and look at his comp in the past few years, it has actually been pretty damn solid.

            But, PBF had to make himself hated to sell his fights as well as he has--considering his style--so he can't complain too much about it. He just has to accept that a big part of his check is being paid for by people who want so badly to see him lose.
            LMAO...............................................

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              #36
              Originally posted by nwo riggs
              "Mosley was never really that great to start with."

              shot all ur credibility.
              Prove Mosley is great.

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                #37
                Originally posted by LarryX2011
                hold on now...prime Mosley would beat the hell out of Ortiz,you're over rating Ortiz now
                Last year's Mosley would beat Ortiz. Let alone prime Mosley.

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                  #38
                  If not Ortiz then who and don't say Pac bcse there was no way he being Floyd is coming off an year+ layoff and fight him so how could this be critized his decsion to go on vacation yes but Ortiz is the biggest threat at WW the Hot name fighter and i actually think he'll make a good account for himself, not win but have his moments and make Floyd earn this W
                  there is no qualms about this fight in my view

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RyunosukeRonin
                    If not Ortiz then who and don't say Pac bcse there was no way he being Floyd is coming off an year+ layoff and fight him so how could this be critized his decsion to go on vacation yes but Ortiz is the biggest threat at WW the Hot name fighter and i actually think he'll make a good account for himself, not win but have his moments and make Floyd earn this W
                    there is no qualms about this fight in my view
                    Cotto Martinez...........................

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by NET


                      Lets use science instead of hollow rhetoric and examine Mayweather's opposition since Castillo and I defy anyone to prove that Ortiz is not better than everyone on that list.

                      1)Victoriano Sosa.
                      Adv. Ortiz.

                      2)Phillip N'dou.
                      Adv. Ortiz.

                      3)Henry Bruseles
                      Adv. Ortiz.

                      4)Arturo Gatti (post Ward trilogy, though I'm not sure it matters, Ortiz is just better)
                      Adv. Ortiz

                      5)DeMarcus Corley. Respectable journeyman, but not better than Ortiz.
                      Adv. Ortiz

                      6)Zab Judah. Always overrated, coming off a loss to 10 loss journeyman.
                      Adv. Ortiz

                      7)Baldomir. Having one good night against a mental overrated midget, does not make you great or good. Just a tough journeyman.
                      Adv. Ortiz

                      8)Ricky Hatton. Never very good, but matched properly by Warren to milk his loyal fanbase.
                      Adv. Ortiz

                      9)Oscar DeLaHoya. Good fighter, but way past his prime when he took the fight and had just been busted up by a pillow fisted lightweight Steve Forbes in his previous fight. Full time promoter, part time fighter.

                      10)JMM. Obviously better than Ortiz, but a career 126 pounder.
                      Adv. Ortiz

                      11) Mosley. Old. old. old. Similar to Baldomir, he had one good night, but aside from the Margarito fight has looked awful for years. And frankly, Mosley was never really that great to start with.

                      Adv. Ortiz.

                      So lest anyone think, Mayweather is cherrypicking, think again, this is actually the first time in almost 10 years he's facing a live, young, strong opponent his own size.

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                      Says a lot about Floyd's ATG resume.

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