For those of you who question Ortiz as an opponent.

[NET]

Lets use science instead of hollow rhetoric and examine Mayweather's opposition since Castillo and I defy anyone to prove that Ortiz is not better than everyone on that list.

1)Victoriano Sosa.
Adv. Ortiz.

2)Phillip N'dou.
Adv. Ortiz.

3)Henry Bruseles
Adv. Ortiz.

4)Arturo Gatti (post Ward trilogy, though I'm not sure it matters, Ortiz is just better)
Adv. Ortiz

5)DeMarcus Corley. Respectable journeyman, but not better than Ortiz.
Adv. Ortiz

6)Zab Judah. Always overrated, coming off a loss to 10 loss journeyman.
Adv. Ortiz

7)Baldomir. Having one good night against a mental overrated midget, does not make you great or good. Just a tough journeyman.
Adv. Ortiz

8)Ricky Hatton. Never very good, but matched properly by Warren to milk his loyal fanbase.
Adv. Ortiz

9)Oscar DeLaHoya. Good fighter, but way past his prime when he took the fight and had just been busted up by a pillow fisted lightweight Steve Forbes in his previous fight. Full time promoter, part time fighter.

10)JMM. Obviously better than Ortiz, but a career 126 pounder.
Adv. Ortiz

11) Mosley. Old. old. old. Similar to Baldomir, he had one good night, but aside from the Margarito fight has looked awful for years. And frankly, Mosley was never really that great to start with.

Adv. Ortiz.

So lest anyone think, Mayweather is cherrypicking, think again, this is actually the first time in almost 10 years he's facing a live, young, strong opponent his own size.

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[Explosions]

Ortiz is a dangerous opponent but he's the right cup of tea for Floyd. Guy stays open plenty of times, has a questionable heart, hasn't fought big names yet, still unproven, inexperienced...

It's the kind of fighter that Floyd can tag all night and frustrate with his defense.

I am rooting for him though, I think he has the tools to pull it off.

[Jack Napier]

Ortiz not a cherrypicked opponent
just an opponent who stands no chance
a good tuneup for Floyd after his vacation

[bojangles1987]

I don't think Ortiz is as good as Mosley was.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

way to **** on Floyd's last 11 opponents

[Phenom]

I really feel Victor Ortiz is very underrated on these boards the Floyd fight happened too soon I would have loved Ortiz to fight Jones or Bradley or even Khan at 147 1st then he would have gotten the proper respect.


either way people who think Floyd is pitching a shutout on the 17th will be in for a show, I'm predicting Floyd getting knocked down early in this fight but still winning a close decision.

[NET]

I don't think Ortiz is as good as Mosley was.

Mosley is nowhere near as dynamic and skilled as Ortiz. His fights vs. the likes of Jose Luis Cruz, David Estrada, Ricardo Mayorga, his dull outing vs. Cotto, his losses to Wright who toyed with him, and his fights with Mora, Floyd and Pac prove this.

Mosley was always overrated because he's a nice likeable guy. But if you analyze his performances, you see that he is very basic.

[Larry the boss]

There is no better fight at 147 besides Manny simple and plain...............but haters gone hate

[Larry the boss]

Mosley is nowhere near as dynamic and skilled as Ortiz. His fights vs. the likes of Jose Luis Cruz, David Estrada, Ricardo Mayorga, his dull outing vs. Cotto, his losses to Wright who toyed with him, and his fights with Mora, Floyd and Pac prove this.

Mosley was always overrated because he's a nice likeable guy. But if you analyze his performances, you see that he is very basic.

hold on now...prime Mosley would beat the hell out of Ortiz,you're over rating Ortiz now

[NET]

I really feel Victor Ortiz is very underrated on these boards the Floyd fight happened too soon I would have loved Ortiz to fight Jones or Bradley or even Khan at 147 1st then he would have gotten the proper respect.


either way people who think Floyd is pitching a shutout on the 17th will be in for a show, I'm predicting Floyd getting knocked down early in this fight but still winning a close decision.

I think this is more realistic. Floyd is good enough to win, but anyone who thinks its going to be easy for him is cracked out of their minds.

Ortiz has the skills to do damage, but more importantly, he's got the state of mind of a psychopathic killer right now.

He's coming for Floyds head. He really wants to kill him.