Ref topic: Have Smoger or Bayless ever had an off night that you can remember?

[Rome-By-Ko]

When have you watched one of the fights these two refs have reffed and thought they did a bad job? I can't think of any, these two are like the best in the business. They take each fight seriously as hell. Sucks more refs aren't as great as the two, because there's no way they can ref every fight because they'd be overworked.

Nope,can't say I have...

[Bermuda]

[IIG]

Thats not a flaw... at all.

Aslong as a fighter is still standing it SHOULD go on.

It should not be stopped until the fighter is laying on the canvas and can't get up in 10 secs.

That's how they did in the old days, you know the times when boxing was at it's peak?

I wanna see fighters get knocked the **** out, not stopped because they're taking too much puishment. This is boxing ffs.

Let them continue until they're laying unconcsious or semi unconscious on the canvas I say.

Thank GOD, smoger doesn't stop fights early which is a bunch of nancy school girly fairy **** bull****.

Early stoppages is one of the reasons boxing is losing popularity.

Gotdamn, this was an excellent post!

[uoykcuf]

As a poster mentioned earlier Tony Weeks is pretty good aswell. If I was a boxer the top 3 refs I'd look at and hope to be our ref would be Weeks, Smoger, or Bayless. I can't think of any other big name refs that actually do as good as these three. And yes they might mess up something little but for the most part they're the better refs in the business.

Refs I hate are refs like the ref in Calzaghe/Manfredo. That had to be one of the worst stoppages ever. Calzaghe never connected anything hard enough to warrant a stoppage. British refs are generally bad and will stop fights even before they truly begin.

[Tiozzo]

Thats not a flaw... at all.

Aslong as a fighter is still standing it SHOULD go on.

It should not be stopped until the fighter is laying on the canvas and can't get up in 10 secs.

That's how they did in the old days, you know the times when boxing was at it's peak?

I wanna see fighters get knocked the **** out, not stopped because they're taking too much puishment. This is boxing ffs.

Let them continue until they're laying unconcsious or semi unconscious on the canvas I say.

Thank GOD, smoger doesn't stop fights early which is a bunch of nancy school girly fairy **** bull****.

Early stoppages is one of the reasons boxing is losing popularity.

yeah, who cares about the fighters getting brain damage and other permanent trouble with their health as long as people like you are entertained with a KO

[AntonTheMeh]

bayless eyes are hilarious.

[uoykcuf]

yeah, who cares about the fighters getting brain damage and other permanent trouble with their health as long as people like you are entertained with a KO

Thats the corners job to throw in the towel if they feel their fighter is taken too much punishment. Arreola's corner threw in the towel against Vitali.

[Tiozzo]

Thats the corners job to throw in the towel if they feel their fighter is taken too much punishment. Arreola's corner threw in the towel against Vitali.

wrong

the man the closest to the action is the ref, hence he can and has to react real quick when needed, because nobody can act faster than him

some refs are too ******ed to stop the fight when it has to be stopped just as is the case with the corner, but the ref is supposed to be unbiased and look for the good of the fighters health and not anything else, while the corner may have their own reasons not to stop the fight, good or wrong

Briggs VS Vitali is a perfect and recent example : corner AND the ref too ******ed to stop a nonsensical massacre

Briggs said to his corner no matter what, don't stop it, and those idiots listened to him

it is the role of the ref to protect the fighters, his duty, period

[the niggest]

yeah, who cares about the fighters getting brain damage and other permanent trouble with their health as long as people like you are entertained with a KO

this is boxing not ballet dancing ffs

they know the risks, boxing was FINE 40, 50 and 60 years ago as far as stoppages go. They didn't stop it early like they do today.

early stoppages are ruining the sport, it turns casual fans away, it doesn't provide excitement and it's not enjoyable to watch. end of story.

[uoykcuf]

this is boxing not ballet dancing ffs

they know the risks, boxing was FINE 40, 50 and 60 years ago as far as stoppages go. They didn't stop it early like they do today.

early stoppages are ruining the sport, it turns casual fans away, it doesn't provide excitement and it's not enjoyable to watch. end of story.

He's probably a fan of Calzaghe/Manfredo stoppage. Boxers know the risk when they choose this as their profession.