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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostIf I was an ODH fanboy and told you Shane was on PED's in 2004 you'd say the same thing. Maybe this is why manny should take tests because honest, clean, no isht talking respectable boxers have been known to cheat.
*****s: "Take the TEST!!!, Floyd said so",,
WTF???? Ya dig... Where is the response to I WILL TAKE THE TESTS from the floyd camp???? What part of I WILL TAKE THE TESTS do *****s and floyd not understand?
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Originally posted by fcastro1 View Postmartinez has gone up to middleweight and looks devastating. pac is definitely not faster than he was at featherweight. thats bull****. people only say that stuff to imply that pac must be on peds but you know thats crap.
thats why real fans dont say anything
had pac stayed at 135 or even 140 then this ped steroid thing would be crap
but he moved up
I hope for the sake of the sport that he takes the ****** tests and comes out clean then doubters like myself and a whole lot others can agree that win or lose against floyd manny is a very special maybe once in a lifetime fighter
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Originally posted by bluetuazon View Posthas manny peaked already during those times he fought jmm?? they barely beat jmm yes but manny of today is different from the manny that fought jmm years ago..
The JMM fight is not a good fight for Pac IMO. If he even struggles the slightest it is not good. It will A. tell us Pac is slipping or B. tell us that Pac STILL cant handle defensive counter punchers.
Pac should be able to Ricky Hatton JMM at WW especially an older JMM. Got to give JMM credit though, he's still a LW Champion.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostSee this is what kills me. Agreeing to tests wasn't the major issue, negotiating the cutoff was. If you are negotiaiting a cutoff date then you are not agreeing to OST. Its really that simple.
Manny has yet to agree to completely random testing, unless you count the things Bob said in July 2010.
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Originally posted by beatnutts View PostThe thing that kills me about this topic is that if this was a baseball player, a football player or a basketball player refusing to take a random test, they would be labeling as a cheat.
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Originally posted by bluetuazon View Posthas manny peaked already during those times he fought jmm?? they barely beat jmm yes but manny of today is different from the manny that fought jmm years ago..
Basically what I am getting at is that nobody knows how much Manny has truly improved because he has not faced anything close to the caliber or style of fighter that has given his the most problems.
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Originally posted by RachelB View PostUmm Pacquiao had a 60-4 amateur record and he turned pro at 16...where do you guys come up with this crap?
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He also was part of the National Amateur Team and was provided room and board...the starving kid, trained himself, bull****...it is all completely fabricated
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Originally posted by WESS View Postand this is true, we are all in an agreement that he beats JMM now especially in the WW division. Even more so, that Mayweather already validated that JMM can not fight above 140. This is no different than everyone being in agreement that Mosley was shot after Mayweather technically destroyed him. Yet Pac still fought him.
The JMM fight is not a good fight for Pac IMO. If he even struggles the slightest it is not good. It will A. tell us Pac is slipping or B. tell us that Pac STILL cant handle defensive counter punchers.
Pac should be able to Ricky Hatton JMM at WW especially an older JMM. Got to give JMM credit though, he's still a LW Champion.
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