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  • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
    This is why Manny (and Bob) don't want fight.

    JMM fought 24 pro rounds with Manny. Both close fights could've gone either way. But when you look closely, factoring in the KD's by Manny, JMM prob won 10 of the 24 rounds clearly.

    If you are Manny and Bob, would you want to fight a guy that has all of JMM's skills and then some, plus more speed and power, plus a better chin, when you barely beat JMM?
    has manny peaked already during those times he fought jmm?? they barely beat jmm yes but manny of today is different from the manny that fought jmm years ago..

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    • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
      If I was an ODH fanboy and told you Shane was on PED's in 2004 you'd say the same thing. Maybe this is why manny should take tests because honest, clean, no isht talking respectable boxers have been known to cheat.
      Manny said HE WOULD TAKE THE TESTS!!!

      *****s: "Take the TEST!!!, Floyd said so",,


      WTF???? Ya dig... Where is the response to I WILL TAKE THE TESTS from the floyd camp???? What part of I WILL TAKE THE TESTS do *****s and floyd not understand?

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      • Originally posted by fcastro1 View Post
        martinez has gone up to middleweight and looks devastating. pac is definitely not faster than he was at featherweight. thats bull****. people only say that stuff to imply that pac must be on peds but you know thats crap.

        Martinez went up to MW 6lbs one weight class not over 20 plus lbs and 5+ weight classes like pac.
        thats why real fans dont say anything
        had pac stayed at 135 or even 140 then this ped steroid thing would be crap
        but he moved up
        I hope for the sake of the sport that he takes the ****** tests and comes out clean then doubters like myself and a whole lot others can agree that win or lose against floyd manny is a very special maybe once in a lifetime fighter

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        • The thing that kills me about this topic is that if this was a baseball player, a football player or a basketball player refusing to take a random test, they would be labeling as a cheat.

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          • Originally posted by bluetuazon View Post
            has manny peaked already during those times he fought jmm?? they barely beat jmm yes but manny of today is different from the manny that fought jmm years ago..
            and this is true, we are all in an agreement that he beats JMM now especially in the WW division. Even more so, that Mayweather already validated that JMM can not fight above 140. This is no different than everyone being in agreement that Mosley was shot after Mayweather technically destroyed him. Yet Pac still fought him.

            The JMM fight is not a good fight for Pac IMO. If he even struggles the slightest it is not good. It will A. tell us Pac is slipping or B. tell us that Pac STILL cant handle defensive counter punchers.

            Pac should be able to Ricky Hatton JMM at WW especially an older JMM. Got to give JMM credit though, he's still a LW Champion.

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            • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
              See this is what kills me. Agreeing to tests wasn't the major issue, negotiating the cutoff was. If you are negotiaiting a cutoff date then you are not agreeing to OST. Its really that simple.

              Manny has yet to agree to completely random testing, unless you count the things Bob said in July 2010.
              this is 2011..... http://www.************.com/main/?p=2232

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              • Originally posted by beatnutts View Post
                The thing that kills me about this topic is that if this was a baseball player, a football player or a basketball player refusing to take a random test, they would be labeling as a cheat.
                What part of "I will take the tests" don't *****s understand??? See what I mean? Floyd keep on harping on his slogan, "take the tests" Manny has answered but like slurping robots, *****s regurgitate what floyd says.. They don't hear you Manny? They scurred.

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                • Originally posted by bluetuazon View Post
                  has manny peaked already during those times he fought jmm?? they barely beat jmm yes but manny of today is different from the manny that fought jmm years ago..
                  How sure are you of how much Manny has improved? I agree that he has improved but by how much is still in question to me and JMM is not gonna be the one to answer that question. I say that because name me one fighter since the last JMM fight that fights anything close to or brings close to the amount of smarts and skills to ring that JMM does.

                  Basically what I am getting at is that nobody knows how much Manny has truly improved because he has not faced anything close to the caliber or style of fighter that has given his the most problems.

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                  • Originally posted by RachelB View Post
                    Umm Pacquiao had a 60-4 amateur record and he turned pro at 16...where do you guys come up with this crap?

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                    He also was part of the National Amateur Team and was provided room and board...the starving kid, trained himself, bull****...it is all completely fabricated
                    Manny was never a part of the Philippine team, the real amateur team that is funded by the Philippine Olympic Commitee.. He was recruited straight from the streets of Manila by local officials to fight other local boys as an entertainment in inter-baranggay activities such as fiestas or other local community events... These kids ranging from 10-14 yrs old or even younger, don't get no proper training, no international or local coaches to guide them, they never even competed outside of Manila... And they get paid if they win in their fights as a small reward... You cannot compare the state of amateur boxing in a third world country as against that in America, they are a million ways apart...

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                    • Originally posted by WESS View Post
                      and this is true, we are all in an agreement that he beats JMM now especially in the WW division. Even more so, that Mayweather already validated that JMM can not fight above 140. This is no different than everyone being in agreement that Mosley was shot after Mayweather technically destroyed him. Yet Pac still fought him.

                      The JMM fight is not a good fight for Pac IMO. If he even struggles the slightest it is not good. It will A. tell us Pac is slipping or B. tell us that Pac STILL cant handle defensive counter punchers.

                      Pac should be able to Ricky Hatton JMM at WW especially an older JMM. Got to give JMM credit though, he's still a LW Champion.
                      like i said...this 3rd fight is a circus...but its a good way to shut marquez up and retire him for good....i wouldnt mind seeing a cry baby get ktfo...if pac doesnt fight mayweather next or a respectable champ in his next bout...i will no longer be a fan...

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