Boxer-Puncher beats a Pure Boxer

[AntonTheMeh]

This method has worked for mega fights in the past. Leonard vs Benitez

that's one fight you mention, bro.

agree...

floyd is a boxing genius..but he showed he could also engage as in the mosley fight.

however, floyd needs to reckon with pac's powerful volume punches, southpaw stance and speed..

the above will likely play out with floyd being on the defense mode most of the time..
where he is good at....

so it will still be a toss up between the offensive machine pac is and the technician in floyd

exactly. I'm not one for triangle theories, but we know that counter punchers trouble pac (Marquez) and we know what southpaws (judah; corley) and pressure fighters (castillo) bother floyd.

each guy has the others kryptonite.

[sweetscience18]

Floyd Mayweather style developed into pure boxer and Manny Pacquiao is widely regarded as a boxer-puncher.

But when these two styles collide with it the boxer puncher that comes out on top.

In the history of boxing when a boxer puncher faces a pure boxer of similar ability nearly all times the boxer puncher comes out on top.

As they have they have the skill to catch with the pure boxer and do some damage.

Actually the boxer usually comes out on top in big fights..

Ali did
SRL did
Bowe did
Lewis did

The term boxer puncher is normally used to describe someone with incomplete boxing skills. To fight a complete boxer you cant expect to win by not matching them in skills but by making up for it with pubching power...not when that fighter has a good chin and defense anyway.


Thats my opinion anyway...The boxer.

[D4thincarnation]

Actually the boxer usually comes out on top in big fights..

Ali did
SRL did
Bowe did
Lewis did

The term boxer puncher is normally used to describe someone with incomplete boxing skills. To fight a complete boxer you cant expect to win by not matching them in skills but by making up for it with pubching power...not when that fighter has a good chin and defense anyway.


Thats my opinion anyway...The boxer.

SRL and Lewis were definitely boxer punchers.

Ali struggled and go beat by Frazier, who was a swarmer but beat Foreman a slugger.

Pure boxers beat beat sluggers but lose to swarmers
Swarmers beat pure boxers but lose to sluggers
Sluggers beat swarmers but lose to pure boxers.

[madsweeney]

Actually the boxer usually comes out on top in big fights..

Ali did
SRL did
Bowe did
Lewis did

The term boxer puncher is normally used to describe someone with incomplete boxing skills. To fight a complete boxer you cant expect to win by not matching them in skills but by making up for it with pubching power...not when that fighter has a good chin and defense anyway.


Thats my opinion anyway...The boxer.

Ali(boxer) lost to Frazier (swarmer)
Frazier(swarmer) lost to Foreman(slugger)
Foreman(slugger) lost to Ali(boxer)

Yea, guys like SRR and SRL (both boxer-punchers) were incomplete boxers...

[D4thincarnation]

that's one fight you mention, bro.




exactly. I'm not one for triangle theories, but we know that counter punchers trouble pac (Marquez) and we know what southpaws (judah; corley) and pressure fighters (castillo) bother floyd.

each guy has the others kryptonite.

Marquez is a boxer puncher, he and Floyd fight in very different ways.

Hopkins, Toney both pure boxers, beat by Roy Jones a boxer-puncher.

[sweetscience18]

Ali(boxer) lost to Frazier (swarmer)
Frazier(swarmer) lost to Foreman(slugger)
Foreman(slugger) lost to Ali(boxer)

Yea, guys like SRR and SRL (both boxer-punchers) were incomplete boxers...

I was talking about matchups between boxers and boxer punchers..just because you ar.e a boxer does not mean you dont have a hard punch its your technical abilities that make you a boxer.

Ali also beat frazier twice..and also beat many boxer punchers.
SRL beat Hearns one of the best boxer punchers of all time.
SRR was the definition of a boxer! Just because you are powerful does not mean you arent a boxer.


Shane mosley is a boxer puncher for example..what happened when he faced forrest and floyd, both boxers?

And a pressure fighter is the key to beating a boxer and vice versa.

Been in boxing gyms my whole life and trust me theperson with the best technical skills and timing is the one who has the most potential to win any matchup.

[sweetscience18]

SRL and Lewis were definitely boxer punchers.

Ali struggled and go beat by Frazier, who was a swarmer but beat Foreman a slugger.

Pure boxers beat beat sluggers but lose to swarmers
Swarmers beat pure boxers but lose to sluggers
Sluggers beat swarmers but lose to pure boxers.

Just because you have knockout power doesnt mean youre a boxer puncher..
SRL was a boxer and would probably be insulted if someone called him a puncher. He had great defense and technical skills.

Lewis was a boxer gtfoh..he used the jab, he used angles and pivots to beat his opponents and also had good defense.

Being a powerful puncher doesnt make you any less of a boxer.
In boxing, when someone says you are a puncher, that usually means you really mostly on your punch. To be called a boxer puncher it means you rely on part of your boxing skills, and part of your punching power...(sad i have to explain this)

Guys like SRL, SRR, Lennox..they didnt rely on there punching pkwer at all they counted on their skills to win they just happened to have a great amount of power to go with that skill.

[GrandpaBernard]

Marquez is a boxer puncher, he and Floyd fight in very different ways.

Hopkins, Toney both pure boxers, beat by Roy Jones a boxer-puncher.

According to you manny is also a boxer-puncher just like Marquez, we all remember Marquez getting taken to school by the boxer, Floyd, hard.

[Kagami Taiga]

ppl are forgetting the best example p4p wise withing the last 20 yrs. jcc should have lost to pernell whitaker.

boxer-puncher loses to boxer.

in other words, it doesnt always go the way u claim it does.

[sweetscience18]

ppl are forgetting the best example p4p wise withing the last 20 yrs. jcc should have lost to pernell whitaker.

boxer-puncher loses to boxer.

in other words, it doesnt always go the way u claim it does.

I think the TS is just trying to say manny beats floyd..
All of a sudden guys like SRL Lennox Lewis SRR arent boxers just because they knock people out....