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  • Chups
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    #21
    Originally posted by Las Vegas
    Name them.
    On top of my head..........


    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Henry Armstrong
    Willie Pep
    Joe Louis
    Harry Greb
    Benny Leonard
    Muhammad Ali
    Roberto Duran
    Jack Dempsey
    Jack Johnson
    Mickey Walker
    Tony Canzoneri
    Gene Tunney
    Rocky Marciano
    Joe Gans
    Sam Langford
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Jimmy Wild
    Stanley Ketchel
    Barney Ross
    Jimmy McLarnin
    Archie Moore
    Marcel Cerdan
    Ezzard Charles
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Joe Walcott
    Jake LaMptta
    Eder Jofre
    Emile Griffith
    Terry McGovern
    George Foreman
    Johnny Dundee
    Jose Napoles
    Pascual Perez
    Billy Conn
    Ruben Olivares
    Joe Frazier
    Tommy Loughran
    Sandy Saddler
    Kid Chocolate
    Abe Atell
    Evander Holyfield
    George Dixon
    Maxie Rosenbloom
    Larry Holmes
    Ted "Kid" Lewis
    Marvelous Marvin Hagler
    Pernell Whitaker
    Carlos Zarate
    Thomas Hearns
    Battling Nelson
    Beau Jack
    Ricardo Lopez
    John L. Sullivan
    Carlos Monzon
    Alexis Arguello
    Carmen Basilio
    Pete Herman
    Charley Burley
    Ike Williams
    Kid Gavilan
    Jack Britton
    D1ck Tiger
    Pancho Villa
    Panama Al Brown
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
    Tiger Flowers
    James J. Corbett
    Tony Zale
    Tommy Ryan
    Georges Carpentier
    Sonny Liston
    "Kid" McCoy
    Bob Foster
    Freddie Welsh
    Joe Jeannette
    Jim Driscoll
    Jersey Joe Walcott
    Peter Jackson
    Ad Wolgast
    Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
    Manuel Ortiz
    James J. Jeffries
    Salvador Sanchez
    Jimmy Barry
    Carlos Ortiz
    Roy Jones, Jr.
    Wilfredo Gomez
    Aaron Pryor
    Bernard Hopkins
    Mike Gibbons
    Jack Delaney
    Johnny Kilbane
    Willie Ritchie
    Wilfredo Benitez
    Packey McFarland
    Rocky Graziano
    Lew Jenkins
    Mike Tyson
    Fighting Harada
    Pascual Perez
    Miguel Canto
    Khaosai Galaxy
    Tiger Flowers
    Joe Brown
    Tommy Loughran
    Bernard Hopkins
    Felix Trinidad
    Lennox Lewis
    Jimmy McLarnin
    Bob Montgomery
    Freddie Miller
    Benny Lynch
    Beau Jack
    Azumah Nelson
    Eusebio Pedroza
    Antonio Cervantes
    Gene Fullmer
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Carlos Zarate
    Marcel Cerdan
    Flash Elorde
    Erik Morales
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Floyd Mayweather
    Manny Pacquiao


    Last edited by Chups; 08-17-2011, 12:37 PM.

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    • Boxingtech718v2
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      #22
      IDK definitely if he KOs pack this time.

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      • 713832281
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        #23
        This. And yes he is top 100.

        Originally posted by Las Vegas
        Of course he is.

        If you don't think he is, you haven't followed his career. Stop watching highlights on YouTube (even though they showcase what Marquez is about) and start watching all of his fights. You'll soon notice he is a special fighter who's taken on tough opponents through his career and comes to fight every single time. Marquez is the definition of a man of his word and a man of war.

        Marquez says he is willing to die in the ring, he'll show it fight night. That's why Pacquiaos fight will be an interesting and entertaining one, Marquez will be willing to trade and exchange punches all night.

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #24
          Hmmmmm, not sure.

          Probably not.

          I feel both Morales and Barrera are quite a bit greater.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Chups
            On top of my head..........


            Sugar Ray Robinson
            Henry Armstrong
            Willie Pep
            Joe Louis
            Harry Greb
            Benny Leonard
            Muhammad Ali
            Roberto Duran
            Jack Dempsey
            Jack Johnson
            Mickey Walker
            Tony Canzoneri
            Gene Tunney
            Rocky Marciano
            Joe Gans
            Sam Langford
            Julio Cesar Chavez
            Jimmy Wild
            Stanley Ketchel
            Barney Ross
            Jimmy McLarnin
            Archie Moore
            Marcel Cerdan
            Ezzard Charles
            Sugar Ray Leonard
            Joe Walcott
            Jake LaMptta
            Eder Jofre
            Emile Griffith
            Terry McGovern
            George Foreman
            Johnny Dundee
            Jose Napoles
            Pascual Perez
            Billy Conn
            Ruben Olivares
            Joe Frazier
            Tommy Loughran
            Sandy Saddler
            Kid Chocolate
            Abe Atell
            Evander Holyfield
            George Dixon
            Maxie Rosenbloom
            Larry Holmes
            Ted "Kid" Lewis
            Marvelous Marvin Hagler
            Pernell Whitaker
            Carlos Zarate
            Thomas Hearns
            Battling Nelson
            Beau Jack
            Ricardo Lopez
            John L. Sullivan
            Carlos Monzon
            Alexis Arguello
            Carmen Basilio
            Pete Herman
            Charley Burley
            Ike Williams
            Kid Gavilan
            Jack Britton
            D1ck Tiger
            Pancho Villa
            Panama Al Brown
            Bob Fitzsimmons
            Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
            Tiger Flowers
            James J. Corbett
            Tony Zale
            Tommy Ryan
            Georges Carpentier
            Sonny Liston
            "Kid" McCoy
            Bob Foster
            Freddie Welsh
            Joe Jeannette
            Jim Driscoll
            Jersey Joe Walcott
            Peter Jackson
            Ad Wolgast
            Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
            Manuel Ortiz
            James J. Jeffries
            Salvador Sanchez
            Jimmy Barry
            Carlos Ortiz
            Roy Jones, Jr.
            Wilfredo Gomez
            Aaron Pryor
            Bernard Hopkins
            Mike Gibbons
            Jack Delaney
            Johnny Kilbane
            Willie Ritchie
            Wilfredo Benitez
            Packey McFarland
            Rocky Graziano
            Lew Jenkins
            Mike Tyson
            Fighting Harada
            Pascual Perez
            Miguel Canto
            Khaosai Galaxy
            Tiger Flowers
            Joe Brown
            Tommy Loughran
            Bernard Hopkins
            Felix Trinidad
            Lennox Lewis
            Jimmy McLarnin
            Bob Montgomery
            Freddie Miller
            Benny Lynch
            Beau Jack
            Azumah Nelson
            Eusebio Pedroza
            Antonio Cervantes
            Gene Fullmer
            Oscar De La Hoya
            Carlos Zarate
            Marcel Cerdan
            Flash Elorde
            Erik Morales
            Marco Antonio Barrera
            Floyd Mayweather
            Manny Pacquiao


            Weird how it matches this exact same list:

            http://www.****************/boxing-h...onal-list.html

            Only in different order...

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #26
              Originally posted by Chups
              On top of my head..........


              Sugar Ray Robinson
              Henry Armstrong
              Willie Pep
              Joe Louis
              Harry Greb
              Benny Leonard
              Muhammad Ali
              Roberto Duran
              Jack Dempsey
              Jack Johnson
              Mickey Walker
              Tony Canzoneri
              Gene Tunney
              Rocky Marciano
              Joe Gans
              Sam Langford
              Julio Cesar Chavez
              Jimmy Wild
              Stanley Ketchel
              Barney Ross
              Jimmy McLarnin
              Archie Moore
              Marcel Cerdan
              Ezzard Charles
              Sugar Ray Leonard
              Joe Walcott
              Jake LaMptta
              Eder Jofre
              Emile Griffith
              Terry McGovern
              George Foreman
              Johnny Dundee
              Jose Napoles
              Pascual Perez
              Billy Conn
              Ruben Olivares
              Joe Frazier
              Tommy Loughran
              Sandy Saddler
              Kid Chocolate
              Abe Atell
              Evander Holyfield
              George Dixon
              Maxie Rosenbloom
              Larry Holmes
              Ted "Kid" Lewis
              Marvelous Marvin Hagler
              Pernell Whitaker
              Carlos Zarate
              Thomas Hearns
              Battling Nelson
              Beau Jack
              Ricardo Lopez
              John L. Sullivan
              Carlos Monzon
              Alexis Arguello
              Carmen Basilio
              Pete Herman
              Charley Burley
              Ike Williams
              Kid Gavilan
              Jack Britton
              D1ck Tiger
              Pancho Villa
              Panama Al Brown
              Bob Fitzsimmons
              Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
              Tiger Flowers
              James J. Corbett
              Tony Zale
              Tommy Ryan
              Georges Carpentier
              Sonny Liston
              "Kid" McCoy
              Bob Foster
              Freddie Welsh
              Joe Jeannette
              Jim Driscoll
              Jersey Joe Walcott
              Peter Jackson
              Ad Wolgast
              Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
              Manuel Ortiz
              James J. Jeffries
              Salvador Sanchez
              Jimmy Barry
              Carlos Ortiz
              Roy Jones, Jr.
              Wilfredo Gomez
              Aaron Pryor
              Bernard Hopkins
              Mike Gibbons
              Jack Delaney
              Johnny Kilbane
              Willie Ritchie
              Wilfredo Benitez
              Packey McFarland
              Rocky Graziano
              Lew Jenkins
              Mike Tyson
              Fighting Harada
              Pascual Perez
              Miguel Canto
              Khaosai Galaxy
              Tiger Flowers
              Joe Brown
              Tommy Loughran
              Bernard Hopkins
              Felix Trinidad
              Lennox Lewis
              Jimmy McLarnin
              Bob Montgomery
              Freddie Miller
              Benny Lynch
              Beau Jack
              Azumah Nelson
              Eusebio Pedroza
              Antonio Cervantes
              Gene Fullmer
              Oscar De La Hoya
              Carlos Zarate
              Marcel Cerdan
              Flash Elorde
              Erik Morales
              Marco Antonio Barrera
              Floyd Mayweather
              Manny Pacquiao


              Good list of fighters there.

              Most I feel are feel are certainly greater Marquez, a few argubale. So yeah as I thought he probably isn't.

              You missed Harold Johnson, by the way.

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              • GoogleMe
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                #27
                Maybe top 100, but nowhere near top 50.

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                • Chups
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Las Vegas
                  Weird how it matches this exact same list:

                  http://www.****************/boxing-h...onal-list.html

                  Only in different order...
                  Ummm....I didn't get it from that site or what ever that is....it's full of asterisks.

                  But I admit that I used the net to make the list.......nothing wrong with that.
                  I could have listed more but I'm in a rush.

                  JMM is not even top 15 best Mexican fighter of all time let alone top 100 ATG.

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                  • -MAKAVELLI-
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                    #29
                    not sure if he makes the top 100

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                    • Kagami Taiga
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                      #30
                      hes on the borderline looking in imo. if he would stay at `35 and beat contenders like rios etc, he could fight his way in the discussion easily. but hes running outta time and that pac beating hes about to take aint gonna help his career. all he needs to do is look at his brother for an example of how taxing great trilogies are on your body and subsequent career.

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