i feel ya rome, this is my thoughts exactly, except that I had agbeko winning 7 rounds- 2,5 (or 4 whichever was the one where he landed that bomb that stopped mares in his tracks), 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. I thought 5,6,12 were swing rounds that could have gone either way, but that 3 points swing in 11 was complete dog****
Agbeko>>>>>Mares all mother flower day!!!!!
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The fight was all bad in so many ways, it isn't even funny. IMO Mares did enough to win fairly. But he did land some low blows. But not as much as showtime made it seem. The ref should have been stern with Mares to keep them up. He was clearly bribed by Golden boy.
But at the same time the 1st kd was legit, period. There are those that seem to think that a draw was a fair call even after the 4 point swing. No ****ing way. Mares controlled the majority of that fight. Agbeko would have needed to win 8 rounds of that fight to get a draw, he did not. The action was back & forth with Agbeko looking like **** early to settling into his groove late. If Mares got a point taken for the low blow, which he should have, he would have still won. This wasn't Pual Williams vs Lara. The fight was competitive.Comment
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the first kd was clearly a slip imo, that was no freakin way a kd.The fight was all bad in so many ways, it isn't even funny. IMO Mares did enough to win fairly. But he did land some low blows. But not as much as showtime made it seem. The ref should have been stern with Mares to keep them up. He was clearly bribed by Golden boy.
But at the same time the 1st kd was legit, period. There are those that seem to think that a draw was a fair call even after the 4 point swing. No ****ing way. Mares controlled the majority of that fight. Agbeko would have needed to win 8 rounds of that fight to get a draw, he did not. The action was back & forth with Agbeko looking like **** early to settling into his groove late. If Mares got a point taken for the low blow, which he should have, he would have still won. This wasn't Pual Williams vs Lara. The fight was competitive.
Agbeko won rd 4 or 5 just on that one right hand (best punch of the fight), bush, I'm about to post a video and you tell me if you still think it wasn't as many low blows as they made it seem.
I already posted what rounds I scored, i'd be interested in seeing your scorecard,
this was waaaaaaay worse than williams lara because the ref controlled the fight. everyone saw what happened in a fair fight with lara-williams. this was not a fair fight, not even close.Comment
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you can't possibly see less than say 20 in this vid.
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The fight was all bad in so many ways, it isn't even funny. IMO Mares did enough to win fairly. But he did land some low blows. But not as much as showtime made it seem. The ref should have been stern with Mares to keep them up. He was clearly bribed by Golden boy.
But at the same time the 1st kd was legit, period. There are those that seem to think that a draw was a fair call even after the 4 point swing. No ****ing way. Mares controlled the majority of that fight. Agbeko would have needed to win 8 rounds of that fight to get a draw, he did not. The action was back & forth with Agbeko looking like **** early to settling into his groove late. If Mares got a point taken for the low blow, which he should have, he would have still won. This wasn't Pual Williams vs Lara. The fight was competitive.
I had it 7-5 Mares, or 115-111 as the two judges did counting of course the ref's kd's which you have to do if you are judging.
If Agbeko would've thrown the jab more and the right hand instead of those wild left hooks that missed by miles and eating counters for his efforts, he might have won an earlier round.
He got his groove on last but was getting schooled in the first half of the fight. Mares was beating him to the punch pretty badly early on.
Even the round he landed the bomb in, he did little else that round.
Would love to see a rematch. Different ref of course.Comment
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One punch can win you a rd, because mares did little effective work in that round. some flurries, but nothing really substantial.I had it 7-5 Mares, or 115-111 as the two judges did counting of course the ref's kd's which you have to do if you are judging.
If Agbeko would've thrown the jab more and the right hand instead of those wild left hooks that missed by miles and eating counters for his efforts, he might have won an earlier round.
He got his groove on last but was getting schooled in the first half of the fight. Mares was beating him to the punch pretty badly early on.
Even the round he landed the bomb in, he did little else that round.
Would love to see a rematch. Different ref of course.
its funny that people are saying agbeko got schooled in the first half, but then did the schooling in the second half, but in the next breath say the fight wasn't close. I had it 7-5 Agbeko, but there were plenty of swing rounds and I gave Agbeko the 12th, which I have a feeling I may not do on rematch. Anything form one to two points either way would seem fair to be, but the referee made this an unfair fight, so it doesn't really matter what our scores were.
i was surprised to see a few things:
1) Mares was much faster than Agbeko
2) Mares also tired out earlier than Agbeko
3) Agbeko never lost his shi t and was ultra classy about the reffing until the kd in 11. Not many elite boxers would act that way.
4) Mares hit his opponent in the pelvis, coccyx, testicles, upper thighs, groin, and the penis. That has to be a record.Last edited by Walt Liquor; 08-15-2011, 08:23 AM.Comment
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I wasn't compairing the officiating. But the competative nature of the fights. The Punisher damn near lost every round to Lara. Not the case on saturday. Agbeko would have needed to win 8 rounds to pull out a draw. He did not. I didn't say that Mares didn't go low. In my 1st post in your tread I said he probably did land about 15. The ref was bribed, no other way to explain it. That guy is on Marlon Wright status right now. Agbeko simply didn't win IMO. As far as the kd is concerned a punch landed when Agbeko fell. That's a kd. Hell he looked like he was ready to be ko'd during the 1st 3 rounds. What I'm saying is that the fight was competitive as it continued & there is no way IMO that Agbeko won 8 rounds.the first kd was clearly a slip imo, that was no freakin way a kd.
Agbeko won rd 4 or 5 just on that one right hand (best punch of the fight), bush, I'm about to post a video and you tell me if you still think it wasn't as many low blows as they made it seem.
I already posted what rounds I scored, i'd be interested in seeing your scorecard,
this was waaaaaaay worse than williams lara because the ref controlled the fight. everyone saw what happened in a fair fight with lara-williams. this was not a fair fight, not even close.Comment
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Bottom line is that nobody knows here how much does low blows really took out of Agbeko. He was comming on strong in the second half of the fight which says alot of him. Besides of the low blows Mares was doing very good in the fight.
Somebody here says that they only saw two low blows, don't know what fight he was watchingComment
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I agree bro,I don't know how anybody can feel Mares clearly won a fight that Low Blows was such a huge factor..the first kd was clearly a slip imo, that was no freakin way a kd.
Agbeko won rd 4 or 5 just on that one right hand (best punch of the fight), bush, I'm about to post a video and you tell me if you still think it wasn't as many low blows as they made it seem.
I already posted what rounds I scored, i'd be interested in seeing your scorecard,
this was waaaaaaay worse than williams lara because the ref controlled the fight. everyone saw what happened in a fair fight with lara-williams. this was not a fair fight, not even close.Comment
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One punch can win you a rd, because mares did little effective work in that round. some flurries, but nothing really substantial.
its funny that people are saying agbeko got schooled in the first half, but then did the schooling in the second half, but in the next breath say the fight wasn't close. I had it 7-5 Agbeko, but there were plenty of swing rounds and I gave Agbeko the 12th, which I have a feeling I may not do on rematch. Anything form one to two points either way would seem fair to be, but the referee made this an unfair fight, so it doesn't really matter what our scores were.
i was surprised to see a few things:
1) Mares was much faster than Agbeko
2) Mares also tired out earlier than Agbeko
3) Agbeko never lost his shi t and was ultra classy about the reffing until the kd in 11. Not many elite boxers would act that way.
It was 7-5 for me which implies a close fight.
I can't change the ref's point deductions and non calls or the kd.
Agbeko fought back strongly and it got closer at the end..
If Mares got deducted one or two and the second kd wasn't called, it could have very well been a draw.
It was a close good fight, a fight I thought Mares won more rounds in.Comment
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