5 Major Reasons Manny Pacquiao Can Beat Floyd Mayweather

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  • sweetscience18
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    #61
    Originally posted by Megamasterking
    That's true and i'm not saying that Mosley can beat Mayweather. But i think Pacquiao has the style to beat him. Of course, it's impossible to know who will win, Mayweather might be able to take those shots and counter.

    About the Castillo fight, everytime there is crooked judges involved, we must not accept it. Even the great Hagler was robbed ! There is just no excuse for that.
    Obviously floyd felt like he wanted to make up for his performance in that fight by giving castillo an immediate rematch and then what happened.

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    • puga
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      #62
      i think one major factor we have consider is " how is floyd going to fight pac "?....is he gonna be stationary and take the fight to pac like he did vs southpaws he has faced or is he gonna box and move like he usually do?.....

      pac is a southpaw, so if you go in the record, one might say he's going to fight like he always does vs southpaws and take it to him ....but if he does, it will be easier for pac to hit him and chances of him getting hit flushed will also increase unless he plans on just covering up...one at a time counter punch aint gonna be enough to outpoint pac imo, floyd needs to follow it up with a couple of punches atleast (like jmm,erik) and that would create more openings for pac too if he does.......

      i dont see any other way to minimize pac's output but to be mobile but i dont see how one could outpoint pac that way either, that includes floyd unless he out throws pac (given many think floyds more accurate)....floyd lowest punch output being on defenisve is close to 20 punches a round (vs baldomir)...can floyd keep pac off of him for the whole 12?...possibly but highly unlikely, given pac's stamina and resiliency is top notch..at some point floyd will be force to fight ....and for those who use the shane fight as a basis of pac not knowing how to cut the ring off is horribly flawed imo.....pac was winning very comfortablby so he really did'nt need to exert more at all...

      i think, the ortiz fight will tell us a lot on how floyd will fight pac.....
      Last edited by puga; 08-13-2011, 08:45 PM.

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        #63
        Originally posted by tatangb45
        Here are some additional thoughts to consider:

        1) Floyd has not really proven himself at WW. His six fights fights were against three B and C fighters, two smaller fighters from 1 and 2 divisions lower, and one 38 year old past prime fighter. Since he has avoided facing the bests in the WW division, how he performs against an elite fighter remains a big question mark.

        And 2) Floyd has been hit before and, in a few occasions, wobbled by boxers with less power and less accomplished than Pac. Once he starts getting hit by Pac's bombs, and there's no doubt he is going to get hit by this relentless boxer, how will he react? Will he keep his ground and trade like he did with Shane and risk a KO, or will he start running, be mainly on the defensive, and lose his composure like what happened to most of Pac's opponents? It is doubtful if can do to Pac what he did to Marquez for the obvious reason that a WW Pac is a lot different from a WW Marquez.
        Floyd has also shown that he could not totally keep away from fighters like Castillo and ODLH, both of whom were a lot slower than Pac, and this was when Floyd was younger and more agile. Even Hatton had his moments against Floyd and we've all seen the huge gap between Hatton and Pac.

        If anyone would still insist that Floyd will simply school Pac, they better have their heads examined.
        floyd pretty much embarassed all the fighters that caught him with a good shot.castilo and oscar were bigger fighters than floyd and that was a big reason they were able to get floyd agaisnt the ropes alot of times especially castillo and for the fights with oscar and ricky it didn't look like floyds strategy was to keep away especially the oscar fight and it doesn't make a difference any way because manny can't fight on the inside like ricky,oscar and castillo

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          #64
          Originally posted by MindBat
          Any counter arguments have been discussed before. Not that you would be satisfied anyway. No matter what anybody says.



          Only way to truly know is if the Pacman steps inside that ring against Floyd, right?

          The 3 year delay of the fight by Team Pacquiao says it all doesn't it?
          if Floyd didnt ask for OST the fight would have happened already right? do you agree?

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          • straightleft
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            #65
            The best for Floyd to win against Pac is to fight like Marquez. Doing his usual fighting style won't work against Pacquaio right now. Pac will win by activity alone by landing more punches. Now all we have to do is wait the result of Pac vs Marquez. Marquez fighting style will always give Pac a problem. I dont think Pac is bigger than Marquez right now that the wieght issue will decide the outcome of the fight. Marquez should weigh in at his most comfortable weight and I believe him and Pac would be weighed in with just 1 or 2 lbs difference. The only problem with Marquez right now, he will be facing an improved version of Pacquiao, stronger and had been with bigger puncher guys. Pac, IMO could ko JMM under 6. Now my point is...Floyd should fight like Marquez and Pac being an an improved, stronger and tougher than previously Marquez fought will balance everything once again leaning a bit to Pacquaio.
            Last edited by straightleft; 08-13-2011, 09:07 PM.

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            • Carpe Diem
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              #66
              Originally posted by joelab75
              if Floyd didnt ask for OST the fight would have happened already right? do you agree?
              If Manny had agreed fully the first time it was requested, then the fight would have happened already. Do you agree?

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                #67
                Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                If Manny had agreed fully the first time it was requested, then the fight would have happened already. Do you agree?
                lol! You can't hit someone without throwing the punch first.

                Floyd asking the OST = throwing the punch
                Pac denied the OST = hit by a punch

                You can't deny the OST when nobody asking you about it. So it should go to who made the first move and it was Floyd.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by letsgobrady
                  floyd pretty much embarassed all the fighters that caught him with a good shot.castilo and oscar were bigger fighters than floyd and that was a big reason they were able to get floyd agaisnt the ropes alot of times especially castillo and for the fights with oscar and ricky it didn't look like floyds strategy was to keep away especially the oscar fight and it doesn't make a difference any way because manny can't fight on the inside like ricky,oscar and castillo
                  And Pac has fought bigger and stronger fighters with different styles and who were much better than Castillo, Baldomir or Mitchell, and he dominated them all. Plus, he did it in a much more dominant way than what Floyd has done to his opponents.

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                  • MindBat
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by joelab75
                    if Floyd didnt ask for OST the fight would have happened already right? do you agree?
                    You musta forgot: OST was already in the contract at the start of negotiations.

                    NOBODY in team Pacquiao, to this today, ever said: "We will ONLY fight without OST"

                    Now ...

                    If Manny had taken the test back in 2009 the fight would have already happened, Right?

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                    • skillswin
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by sweetscience18
                      1. Floyd adjusts in the ring and has many different defensive styles.
                      2. When you lean to your right that puts you to the left side of your oppinent which is the worst place to get hit with a right hand, ask gatti. And also floyd throws pretty good left hooks.
                      3. Its alot harder to throw 30 punches a round when your opposition if a counter puncher then that would play into floyds hands.
                      4. You doubt his chin will handle mannys bombs yet floyds never been knockedout, hasnt had a legit knockdown, and barely even staggered in his entire career besudes the mosley fight which it took him less than a round to recover. Also pac never knocked out marg whom mosley knocked out. Or clottey who didnt throw 30 punches a round and didnt seem to be hurt at anypount of their fight while juststanding there and blocking.
                      5. How do you know that he will lose and what type of fight he will losein if youve never seen him lose before?
                      this.............

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