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5 Major Reasons Manny Pacquiao Can Beat Floyd Mayweather

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  • #81
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
    Manny is easy to hit, which is why I'm saying Floyd will land 50% is that not a good enough number? Show me where Floyd has landed 60 or 70% of his punches, please. All you do is reply with one liners as if it means something, I'm done with you. Your thread on the doping tests proves that you must work for Floyd or are him yourself you're so blind with his cum all over your face.
    Did you not see Mayweather vs Corrales? Mayweather vs Marquez? Mayweather vs Gatti? You don't even need stats, you can tell by watching the fight. Not to mention he makes EVERY punch count. Even if hes landing 20%. That 20% mattered.

    Originally posted by tatangb45 View Post
    When analyzing who most likely would win in a fight between two boxers, the first things to consider would be their physical differences; the size, reach, height, weight and age. Except for age, where the difference is not a big factor, everything else are on Floyd's favor.

    The next to take into account is style. This is where things get a little dicey. There is nothing concretely conclusive that one's style is superior to the other, given the extraordinary attributes both fighters possess. Here, everything becomes speculative. Any debate becomes futile and leads only to endless points versus counterpoints. Both Pac and Floyd are proven elite fighters. If one of them is less than elite, then there won't be a big argument as to who will be victorious.

    We now come to the next important factor to consider, track record. We have to limit this to their records at WW simply because this is where they would be meeting. Besides, Floyd's last fight lower than WW was close to six years ago. No one can still be physically the same person after six years. And the same goes for Pac.
    There is no need to go into the details of their track records at WW. Anyone who considers himself knowledgeable in boxing should know these. There is also no need to point out that in this category, Pac's record is superior to Floyd's, both in the quality of opponents and the method in which they were won. There is nothing in Floyd's WW record that will show whether he can beat elite fighters since he has managed to avoid those threats throughout his WW career. Neither has he dominated his lesser opponents in the same degree as Pac did to his more superior challenges.

    Based on the points mentioned above, is there any conclusive evidence that one fighter has the edge over the other? I believe the answer is NO.
    Therefore, we are back to square one. The only way to find out is for them to settle this in the ring.
    He crushed Sharmba Mitchell, won vs an UNDEFEATED Ricky Hatton, Lit Judah on fire and embarrassed BOTH Shane Mosley and Juan Manuel Marquez. If we're counting Super Welterweight, he made a GOOD Oscar Dela Hoya look foolish. I'm not even going to mention Baldomir because thats obvious enough.

    Pacquiao did what? Beat a weight drained and dehydrated Dela Hoya. Fought a Joshua Clottey who didn't throw punches. I'll give Pacquiao some credit for knocking out Ricky Hatton in the 2nd and fighting Miguel Cotto, though cotto was still shaken up from Margarito. Overall, where was the finesse though? How does THIS beat Mayweather's resume?

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    • #82
      Originally posted by RightStraight View Post
      Did you not see Mayweather vs Corrales? Mayweather vs Marquez? Mayweather vs Gatti? You don't even need stats, you can tell by watching the fight. Not to mention he makes EVERY punch count. Even if hes landing 20%. That 20% mattered.



      He crushed Sharmba Mitchell, won vs an UNDEFEATED Ricky Hatton, Lit Judah on fire and embarrassed BOTH Shane Mosley and Juan Manuel Marquez. If we're counting Super Welterweight, he made a GOOD Oscar Dela Hoya look foolish. I'm not even going to mention Baldomir because thats obvious enough.

      Pacquiao did what? Beat a weight drained and dehydrated Dela Hoya. Fought a Joshua Clottey who didn't throw punches. I'll give Pacquiao some credit for knocking out Ricky Hatton in the 2nd and fighting Miguel Cotto, though cotto was still shaken up from Margarito. Overall, where was the finesse though? How does THIS beat Mayweather's resume?
      What the hell do any of those fights have to do with Manny? He is a totally different fight then all of those guys, it obviously would be a different fight. They don't throw nearly as many as Manny and the Chico fight was over a decade ago Floyd is a completely different type of fighter with far less offense. I mean FFS Marquez moved up two weight classes and he still couldn't pull the trigger offensively, just leave you have no clue what you are talking about.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by RightStraight View Post
        Did you not see Mayweather vs Corrales? Mayweather vs Marquez? Mayweather vs Gatti? You don't even need stats, you can tell by watching the fight. Not to mention he makes EVERY punch count. Even if hes landing 20%. That 20% mattered.



        He crushed Sharmba Mitchell, won vs an UNDEFEATED Ricky Hatton, Lit Judah on fire and embarrassed BOTH Shane Mosley and Juan Manuel Marquez. If we're counting Super Welterweight, he made a GOOD Oscar Dela Hoya look foolish. I'm not even going to mention Baldomir because thats obvious enough.

        Pacquiao did what? Beat a weight drained and dehydrated Dela Hoya. Fought a Joshua Clottey who didn't throw punches. I'll give Pacquiao some credit for knocking out Ricky Hatton in the 2nd and fighting Miguel Cotto, though cotto was still shaken up from Margarito. Overall, where was the finesse though? How does THIS beat Mayweather's resume?
        People here have been trying to argue intelligently and here you come trying to ruin it.
        Try to use your brains before you post your response. OK?

        Do you really think Floyd's WW resume is better than Pac's?

        Here, take out Mosley from both fighters resumes and this is what you have:

        Floyd - 1) Michell - 2) Judah - 3) Baldomir - 4) Hatton - 5) Marquez

        Pac - 1) ODLH - 2) Cotto - 3) Clottey - 4) Margo

        Now show us who in Floyd's list will beat any of those on Pac's list.

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        • #84
          Logic is a wonderful thing.


          I guess if Roach says Pac will win because he has a better diey thete eill be tons of threafs about how mannys diet is the key to his supieroriry.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
            What the hell do any of those fights have to do with Manny? He is a totally different fight then all of those guys, it obviously would be a different fight. They don't throw nearly as many as Manny and the Chico fight was over a decade ago Floyd is a completely different type of fighter with far less offense. I mean FFS Marquez moved up two weight classes and he still couldn't pull the trigger offensively, just leave you have no clue what you are talking about.
            Look, all I'm saying is that Floyd's offensive skills may not be the same but he hasn't lost it completely. To say Pacquiao will blow Mayweather out of the water, not sure about that.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by RightStraight View Post
              Look, all I'm saying is that Floyd's offensive skills may not be the same but he hasn't lost it completely. To say Pacquiao will blow Mayweather out of the water, not sure about that.
              I didn't say that either, nice try though. I simply said Manny would outwork Floyd to a decision, where is that blowing Floyd out of the water?

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              • #87
                keep them coming guys.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
                  I didn't say that either, nice try though. I simply said Manny would outwork Floyd to a decision, where is that blowing Floyd out of the water?

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by RightStraight View Post
                    What was more dominant about it? You're telling me Floyd winning against Castillo with one arm isn't as impressive as Pacquiao getting lucky against jmm?

                    Floyd has deconstructed his opponents, he has taken their style and defused it or relinquished it from any sort of effectiveness. Floyd is one of the very few fighters to make a world champion or big name look average.

                    Pacquiao lost to Morales the same way he had a draw and split decision against JMM and in most of his fights, all he seems to do is just pressure and combo by coming forward. Not to discredit Pac because hey, its working for him right? Overwhelming an opponent by rushing them down is an effective tactic. Though when rushing down becomes walking into counters and missing your own punches, it becomes very ineffective and amateurish.

                    In shere versatility alone, Floyd dominates EVERYONE, nevermind his other qualities and abilities that separate him from the rest. Pacquiao only seems effective going forward and actually using both his hands. Thankfully he has a decent chin in order to eat the shots he gets hit with.

                    Really, what has Pacquiao done that Floyd hasn't or cannot done/do or top?

                    Pac fought Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito... fighters that folyd hasn't fought yet.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Dale Cardon View Post
                      Pac fought Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito... fighters that folyd hasn't fought yet.
                      ^^^

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