P4P Is Dumb. Klitschko's Best 2 Boxers on the Planet. Fact.

[Die Antwoord]

BoxeHow are they not the best boxers on the planet. They compete in boxing, find me one person who can get in the ring and beat them. No one can...ie. they are the best.

And in basketball generally rankings are done by positions. YOu dont try to compare shaq to AI. Maybe their importance to their team, but no one when Shaq was dominating in the 90's going up against Shawn Bradley said, "Shaq's only good because there are crap centers where as Jordan has to go up against AI, Miller, Malone, etc..." They determined dominance by how they dominated during the game...Football is the same thing you dont compare Peyton to T.O. . Phelps and Lochte are the best swimmers on the planet, they also are about 6'5 200 lbs...they dont try to compare them to swimmers who are 5'8 140 and diminish their accomplishments. If you dont think Bolt uses his large size to help him win races...they did a test on him and he actually runs slower than 90% of other olympians...he just has a longer stride due to being 6'6...so he sucks..he just uses his size to win right?

P4P is dumb...if you want to make comparisons compare how they dominate people their size...but dont make fantasy fights with shrinking rays and growth brownies...its just dumb.

And the best 2 boxers are the Klitschko's...tell me someone who'd beat them. Hell no one else on the p4p list would even dare step in the ring with them because they know theyd be killed.

[Pirao]

exactly, and there are several boxers that are better than the klits.

Put them in the ring and make them beat the Klitschkos then.

[shade darkar]

Put them in the ring and make them beat the Klitschkos then.

hahahaha, funny the klit huggers.

[Barry Halls]

you said the klits are the best boxers in the sport!!! key word, boxer. the thread title says best BOXERS on the planet. not who is the biggest.

but if someone is able to beat another person in a boxingring, doesn't that make them better?

As you mentioned, no the klitschkos does not possess the attributes that Mayweather does, but the topic was not who has the best technique, speed, athleticism or whatever. It was who is the BEST. Theres a huge difference.

[shade darkar]

but if someone is able to beat another person in a boxingring, doesn't that make them better?

As you mentioned, no the klitschkos does not possess the attributes that Mayweather does, but the topic was not who has the best technique, speed, athleticism or whatever. It was who is the BEST. Theres a huge difference.

yes and being the biggest doesnt make you the best.

[-Johannes-]

Klitschko big man. Klitschko wins. Klitschko strong.

[Barry Halls]

yes and being the biggest doesnt make you the best.

If no one can beat you, you are de facto the best. Theres no arguing around that.

It's like saying a really skillful midget is better at basketball than Lebron, because biggest doesn't make you the best.

If you talk about the best technique, or even most skillful, i would agree Mayweather is higher on those attributes. But the question was WHO IS THE BEST, and the guy that noone can beat is in fact the best if you disregard weightclasses.

[Die Antwoord]

And 1 street balla "Tha Professa" is a better dribbler, passer, shooter, faster, quicker, and has more endurance than any center to ever play basketball. Yet he makes 63,000$ a year touring the country all year and Shaq will be a first ballot hall of famer and was making over 20 mil a year for several years.

Also there are only 2 fighter who you can legitimately say make more than the Klitschko's. 1 is Floyd and the other is Manny who by all reports makes far less than the Klitschkos due to the fact that his promoter takes everything.

Heres what people dont get, as you get bigger its harder to be coordinated, its much more rare of a find, your fast twitch reflexes arent the same, it takes more energy to move...that why Bolt is the fastest runner on earth, he is an average (by world class standards) runner who has extreme size. Thats why p4p is ******, as the human body grows or shrinks people gain and lose coordination, speed, endurance and quickness. Theres no telling how skilled Vitali or Wlad could be at 140, and theres no telling how awkward and goofy floyd or pacquiao would be at 250.

P4P lists are fantasy world jokes. Its like debating Wolverine vs. The Undertaker if no claws were allowed in a sanctioned UFC fight. Its ****** and prepubescent. If you want to debate how one dominates their division ok...but to be like "if these guys were the same size..." its dumb. I mean you can say whatever you want, but I always laugh when people are like, "your p4p list is terrible." Unless they rank a guy at the same weight who has beat or clearly has done more at the same weight unders omeone else who was beat or has clearly done less...its just an opinion. Its like arguing who would win in a war, the aliens from independence day or the aliens in war of the worlds.

I like boxing. not a big fan of arguing about dreams, visions, and fantasies.

[shade darkar]

If no one can beat you, you are de facto the best. Theres no arguing around that.
It's like saying a really skillful midget is better at basketball than Lebron, because biggest doesn't make you the best.

If you talk about the best technique, or even most skillful, i would agree Mayweather is higher on those attributes. But the question was WHO IS THE BEST, and the guy that noone can beat is in fact the best if you disregard weightclasses.

ok going of that, the klits have been beat. mayweather hasnt.

[BoZz]

And 1 street balla "Tha Professa" is a better dribbler, passer, shooter, faster, quicker, and has more endurance than any center to ever play basketball. Yet he makes 63,000$ a year touring the country all year and Shaq will be a first ballot hall of famer and was making over 20 mil a year for several years.

Also there are only 2 fighter who you can legitimately say make more than the Klitschko's. 1 is Floyd and the other is Manny who by all reports makes far less than the Klitschkos due to the fact that his promoter takes everything.

Heres what people dont get, as you get bigger its harder to be coordinated, its much more rare of a find, your fast twitch reflexes arent the same, it takes more energy to move...that why Bolt is the fastest runner on earth, he is an average (by world class standards) runner who has extreme size. Thats why p4p is ******, as the human body grows or shrinks people gain and lose coordination, speed, endurance and quickness. Theres no telling how skilled Vitali or Wlad could be at 140, and theres no telling how awkward and goofy floyd or pacquiao would be at 250.

P4P lists are fantasy world jokes. Its like debating Wolverine vs. The Undertaker if no claws were allowed in a sanctioned UFC fight. Its ****** and prepubescent. If you want to debate how one dominates their division ok...but to be like "if these guys were the same size..." its dumb. I mean you can say whatever you want, but I always laugh when people are like, "your p4p list is terrible." Unless they rank a guy at the same weight who has beat or clearly has done more at the same weight unders omeone else who was beat or has clearly done less...its just an opinion. Its like arguing who would win in a war, the aliens from independence day or the aliens in war of the worlds.

I like boxing. not a big fan of arguing about dreams, visions, and fantasies.

floyd promotes himself with the help of golden boy I believe so NO he would not lose most of his money to the promoter..pacquiao does because bob arum is promoting him..and please provide us some numbers when it comes to who makes what..I believe that floyd makes way more money than vitali and wladimir combined.