Is Ortiz Underrated?

[King Ju-Ju]

It's like this:

The same people who say 1 loss does not hurt a fighter, are the one's putting down Ortiz for his 1 loss against Maidana.

These guys still hype up Cotto as a threat to Floyd and say the Margarito and Pacquiao TKO losses don't mean it's the end, but the Maidana loss for Ortiz is the end.

The same people complain about fighter retiring undefeated and that it doesn't mean anything, yet if you lose, you suck.

cotto quit cuz he had nothing left. ortiz quit on himself. he could have continued but he shut it down. cotto, even if he wanted to couldnt continue.

[El Malo.]

After the Maidana fight he didn't seem that great but that's cause his team where trying to make him box n move more around the ring. That's not the Ortiz at all. That's why they let Ortiz do his thing with Berto cause they knew Ortiz wouldn't be able to outbox him. His not a boxer, his a puncher and that's what still makes him dangerous. Obviously your gonna have the STRUGGS n other ******s trying to down play him but that's just them. (your a bigger ****** if you actually pay attention to what they say).

[Kagami Taiga]

lol, ppl on this fight are funny. after he lost to maidana, most ppl, including many of the mexicans, jumped off that bandwagon faster than flies on ****. soon as he fought and beat berto, many of the same ppl were ****riding again because of their dislike of berto. now that hes fighting floyd, hes overrated according to many of the floyd haters around here. mind u, alot of the same ppl were saying how floyd wouldnt even fight the guy even tho there had been rumors of it for months. these guys arent fans, they are bandwagoners, ignore them.

[Everywhere]

Ortiz is overrated.

His best win is against an undefeated guy Pacquiao ducked (and his name doesn't rhyme with gayweather). He took a WW champion's "0." Ortiz should say a prayer because his stars aligned enough that he can make real money off of boxing for the rest of his career.

No matter how much biased fans might try to talk him down, nor how biased fans are talking him up...Ortiz is being vastly overrated by the majority of fans even on this board. Styles make fights, but going life and death with a guy who can't hold Floyd's jock doesn't mean you're a legitimate fight.

[intoccabile]

Berto hadn't fought anyone, for starters. He got beat up by forbes early in their fight and lost to Collazo. Ortiz was actually a step up for berto.

That ortiz Lost to maidana and drew with peterson.

He aint all that, and neither was berto.

[-Kev-]

cotto quit cuz he had nothing left. ortiz quit on himself. he could have continued but he shut it down. cotto, even if he wanted to couldnt continue.

How do you know what Ortiz had and what he didn't have? To me he looked like he took a beating and was badly hurt. But, it's different with Ortiz, cause it just is.

[STRUGG]

Victor is overrated as hell........by *****s as expected.............LOL

[-Kev-]

Berto hadn't fought anyone, for starters. He got beat up by forbes early in their fight and lost to Collazo. Ortiz was actually a step up for berto.

That ortiz Lost to maidana and drew with peterson.

He aint all that, and neither was berto.

What exactly is getting "beat up" for you? Berto won 118-109 at worst, that was a dominating win for him against a guy who is tough to stop and has never been stopped at that time.


And he did not draw with Peterson. How you get 2 knock downs and win at least 6 rounds, but get a draw in a 10 round fight?

[-Kev-]

Victor is overrated as hell........by *****s as expected.............LOL

Yet he's fighting a Guy that beat a man you said he would/is ducking.

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[AllEyesOpen]

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Ha, he just walked right into that one. How quickly people forget their own bullsh#t.

Just like they forget how highly Ortiz was rated just a few years ago. Do i think he's the best fighter out there? no, but i gotta say he's the best choice at 147. He's no JMM, but then again neither is Marquez at ww, unless of course he's fighting Pac.