Is Ortiz Underrated?

[fragilety]

on this website pre berto= ortiz retire

this site post berto= ortiz is dangerous for manny and floyd

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[Rome-By-Ko]

Berto isn't some high ranking guy in his weight class... he was there by default. He had a life and death struggle to get past his only real test in his career in Collazo. He had been sugar fed scraps... No one thought that Berto was an elite guy. A good fighter... yes... but in the big picture it is disengenous to say he was highly ranked compared to other fighters.

I do think he(Ortiz) made up his shortcomings with his fight vs Berto, but I don't think he has the tools to even bother Floyd. He lacks a jab and I don't think he can pressure himself to the extent that Floyd would get bothered.

Funny thing is I think Berto and Ortiz are similar fighters..Good fighters nothing special but good fighters..Technically flawed are both these guy's,any fighter with toughness and good boxing ability would beat both Ortiz and Berto..

[BoxingFollower]

Ortiz was once known as a young, great fighter by Pacquiao fans.

That was until he signed to fight Mayweather, from that point on he became a bum.

I think on the day that the fight was announced, that people like Strugg and others were exposed by old post saying that Mayweather would never fight a young figter like Ortiz, or that Ortiz vs Pacquiao would be a great fight.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Ortiz was once known as a young, great fighter by Pacquiao fans.

That was until he signed to fight Mayweather, from that point on he became a bum.

I think on the day that the fight was announced, that people like Strugg and others were exposed by old post saying that Mayweather would never fight a young figter like Ortiz, or that Ortiz vs Pacquiao would be a great fight.

Who cares,the thread is about do you think Ortiz is underrated(which I don't understand how anybody could feel dude is underrated)and the facts are this...Ortiz never was a top 5 fighter at Jr WW,and the only WW he beat was overrated himself and should have lost to Collazo..I think Ortiz is a fun fighter to watch but he displays no skill and his heart is very questionable..Those are facts having to do with this thread,I don't care about Floyd or Pac either..This is not about that..

[BoxingFollower]

Ortiz is rated about right, there's not much to say about Ortiz.

Ortiz is a great, strong young fighter, very skilled, that combination can be deadly towards anyone.

I would say he is rated about right, meaning that he's not overated. He might be underrated.

[AllEyesOpen]

on this website pre berto= ortiz retire
this site post berto= ortiz is dangerous for manny and floyd

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This was the opinion of most people on here, incuding myself(i didn't think he should retire but i didn't think he had much of a chance against Berto and thought he should just handle his business at jww). But my point remains the same, so let me break it down the way you did;

Pre Maidana: Ortiz was one of the best up and comers in the game, at the time probably considered higher then guys like Khan.

Post Maidana; Ortiz should retire.

You say he was overrated because of one solid win over Berto.

I say he was underrated over 1 loss to Maidana.

[AllEyesOpen]

Ortiz is rated about right, there's not much to say about Ortiz.

Ortiz is a great, strong young fighter, very skilled, that combination can be deadly towards anyone.

I would say he is rated about right, meaning that he's not overated. He might be underrated.

I think he's underrated by some and overrated by others, but in fact is the same fighter he's always been. A tough, skilled, and powerful southpaw who's still rough around the edges. He still has room to grow as a fighter though.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I think he's underrated by some and overrated by others, but in fact is the same fighter he's always been. A tough, skilled, and powerful southpaw who's still rough around the edges. He still has room to grow as a fighter though.

Skills and Ortiz in the same sentence is funny,Ortiz is a bull rusher no real skill to speak of..But your right he is young with a lot of room to grow,let's see if he does or not..

[-Kev-]

It's like this:

The same people who say 1 loss does not hurt a fighter, are the one's putting down Ortiz for his 1 loss against Maidana.

These guys still hype up Cotto as a threat to Floyd and say the Margarito and Pacquiao TKO losses don't mean it's the end, but the Maidana loss for Ortiz is the end.

The same people complain about fighter retiring undefeated and that it doesn't mean anything, yet if you lose, you suck.

[King Ju-Ju]

ortiz quit on himself vs maidana. im a huge fan of ortiz and i think too much was made of that fight. he deserved to be dissed but i think he quit on himself. he doubt his own ability. vs berto, he went HAM and imo thats the real victor ortiz. if the same ortiz shows up sept. 17, we might be in for a big upset.