Who has Muhammad Ali beating that makes people think he stand a chance against WK

[The_Expert]

6'4 and top FIVE power all time, if not number one, and still couldn't back Liston up.

I bet "The_Expert" doesn't know that despite Liston being just over 6 foot his fists were the size of melons. His clenched fist measured 15 inches in around. For context that's about twice the average man's. He had an 84 inch reach.....how long is Wlad's reach "Expert"??? Hint---> it's not more than 84 inches ***GGOT!!!!

Reach doesnt mean ****. Listons head comes to Wlads shoulders.

Therefore Wlad would punch straight while Liston needed to punch up*****. therefore Wlad woulde have had a reach advantage.

[The_Expert]

Foreman was 6'4 guy. You are one hell of an idiot.

6 foot 3 and weighter 210 pounds => small compared in todays HW divison. He wouldnt be able to bully anyone

[bojangles1987]

Reach doesnt mean ****. Listons head comes to Wlads shoulders.

Therefore Wlad would punch straight while Liston needed to punch up*****. therefore Wlad woulde have had a reach advantage.

No, Liston would be perfectly content to crush Wlad's body, which he leaves wide open, until Wlad's head was unprotected and Liston wouldn't have to bother working hard to land on it.

[check hook]

Liston is still underrated to this day because of the losses to Ali.......yet it's still contentious as to whether they were legit, and even if they were he was a monster. Imagine a fist that size on the end of a reach that is 3 inches longer than a 6'6" Wladimir Klitschko????

Also, Expert, in case you are not aware, Liston possessed on of the greatest jabs in the history of boxing, which opponents and observers alike said went right through even the tightest of guards........you think Wlad is going to out jab a guy with a longer reach by three inches and actually a better jab????


If you are going to mouth off and talk nonsense the least you could do is actually be informed you moron!!!

[ALG United]

Liston is still underrated to this day because of the losses to Ali.......yet it's still contentious as to whether they were legit, and even if they were he was a monster. Imagine a fist that size on the end of a reach that is 3 inches longer than a 6'6" Wladimir Klitschko????

Also, Expert, in case you are not aware, Liston possessed on of the greatest jabs in the history of boxing, which opponents and observers alike said went right through even the tightest of guards........you think Wlad is going to out jab a guy with a longer reach by three inches and actually a better jab????


If you are going to mouth off and talk nonsense the least you could do is actually be informed you moron!!!

I don't think the TS knows what his talking about.. LOL

[check hook]

Reach doesnt mean ****. Listons head comes to Wlads shoulders.

Therefore Wlad would punch straight while Liston needed to punch up*****. therefore Wlad woulde have had a reach advantage.

Funny guys who were 6'4", 6'3" couldn't even out jab a 5'11" Mike Tyson when he decided to actually jab.....and when he didn't they couldn't hit him anyway.

If it's that big a deal why couldn't a 6'2" Sam Peter (who in your opinion is better than Liston, Frazier and Foreman) weighing 260+ convincingly beat a former 160 pounder who is 5'10" ????

[The_Expert]

Funny guys who were 6'4", 6'3" couldn't even out jab a 5'11" Mike Tyson when he decided to actually jab.....and when he didn't they couldn't hit him anyway.

If it's that big a deal why couldn't a 6'2" Sam Peter (who in your opinion is better than Liston, Frazier and Foreman) weighing 260+ convincingly beat a former 160 pounder who is 5'10" ????

BTW Toney that beat Holyfield would have made Frazier and Foreman look like clowns

And its easy to say Peter is a fat bum now that Wlad has beaten him. I remember Wlad being the underdog in that fight. If Frazier would have lived in this era you would have called him a fat bum to after Wlad was done with him

[check hook]

BTW Toney that beat Holyfield would have made Frazier and Foreman look like clowns

And its easy to say Peter is a fat bum now that Wlad has beaten him. I remember Wlad being the underdog in that fight. If Frazier would have lived in this era you would have called him a fat bum to after Wlad was done with him

That's not an explanation.....it goes against your previous logic......i'm actually still unsure as to whether you are just trying to wind everyone up. Either way you have been added to my ignore list, there's nothing i can gain by reading anything you could ever post.

[Chopper417]

BTW Toney that beat Holyfield would have made Frazier and Foreman look like clowns

And its easy to say Peter is a fat bum now that Wlad has beaten him. I remember Wlad being the underdog in that fight. If Frazier would have lived in this era you would have called him a fat bum to after Wlad was done with him

Cmon dude you're getting completely carried away here. OK you like Wlad we get it. Foreman would have completely embarassed Toney, and that's if he didn't decapitate him first.

[The_Expert]

Also, Expert, in case you are not aware, Liston possessed on of the greatest jabs in the history of boxing, which opponents and observers alike said went right through even the tightest of guards........you think Wlad is going to out jab a guy with a longer reach by three inches and actually a better jab????

Who were Listons opponents exactly? Liston himself fought mostly bums. his best win was over the CW Floyd Patterson.