Does Cotto go through Mayweathers resume without a loss?

[jrosales13]

I don't see how JMM and Hatton gives Cotto any problems at WW.

Bruseles and Gatti would have been beaten by Cotto easy at 140.

Mitchell and Baldomir would have been beaten by Cotto easy at 147.

We already saw how fights with Corley(140), Judah(147), and Mosley(147) went for Cotto.

The one that's harder to pick is Oscar at 154.

If we're talking about the pre Margarito/Pacquiao version of Cotto against that version of Oscar at 154. I might give the edge to Cotto to pull that one out. I'm not sure why people think so highly about that version of Oscar but whatever.

If we're talking about the post Margarito/Pacquiao version of Cotto against that version of Oscar at 154. Then I will pick Oscar to win it.

[Las Vegas,]

I voted too quick, I only read the thread title and thought to myself "HELL NO" then I saw you say 140-154...well...personally I think he'd have trouble with Oscar and JMM, but that's about it.

[bballchump11]

Oscar ****s Cotto up

[daggum]

Oscar ****s Cotto up

what was so great about the oscar that floyd fought? just because he gave floyd problems doesn't mean he was a great fighter. he was marching forward throwing a ton of ineffective punches and couldn't setup anything. it was rather sad to see and i thought maybe it was just floyd's great defense but nope against forbes and pac the same oscar showed up.

[check hook]

oscar at 154 knocks cotto out

i actually agree even though it wasn't "the best" Oscar at 54, Cotto is there to be hit, Oscar would have stopped him with a left hook. He just couldn't "find" Mayweather.

[jrosales13]

WTF did Mayorga do above 147? What exactly was it? Beat Picirillo? Get his chin cracked by Tito?

I mean FFS's. Tito coming out of a long ass layoff Put an ass whoopin on Mayorga..

Matter of what did Mayorga do after KO'ing Forrest? He arguably lost to Forrest in the rematch, lost to Spinks(who wasn't all that) and then became a mouth for the rest of his career.

What Mayorga do above 147? It must be that he beat a shot to shit Vargas. Is that the reason people think highly of a win over Mayorga at 154?

[Las Vegas,]

WTF did Mayorga do above 147? What exactly was it? Beat Picirillo? Get his chin cracked by Tito?

I mean FFS's. Tito coming out of a long ass layoff Put an ass whoopin on Mayorga..

Matter of what did Mayorga do after KO'ing Forrest? He arguably lost to Forrest in the rematch, lost to Spinks(who wasn't all that) and then became a mouth for the rest of his career.

What Mayorga do above 147? Anybody....

Wrong thread Jro.

[jrosales13]

Wrong thread Jro.

Actually it belongs in this thread.

Because, it's obvious that people think THAT VERSION OF OSCAR could KTFO of a prime Cotto. Because, of what he did to Mayorga a year earlier.

Like if that was some big accomplishment.

KO'ing that version or any version of Mayorga for that matter is one thing. Fighting a prime Miguel Cotto is a whole different animal.

Prime for Prime Oscar dominates Cotto at any weight.

Prime Cotto against that version of Oscar is a close fight that I would give the edge to Cotto. That version of Oscar wasn't that good at all.

That version of Oscar against the post Margarito/Pacquiao version of Cotto. Then I will give the edge to that version of Oscar.

But, I don't see that version of Oscar KO'ing a prime Cotto.

Hell a prime version of Oscar never KO'd any elite prime fighter above 140. So how is Oscar being part time fighter/full time promoter past prime fighter going to KO an elite prime Cotto?

Because, Floyd beat him? So we have to make Floyd wins better than what they really are. So we have to portray his opponents as monsters? Or is it because we going by Oscar reputation ignoring that fact that wasn't the same Oscar of the 90's? Or was it because he KO'd a guy who didn't accomplished anything worthy above 147 a year earlier?

[JmH Reborn]

I think he'd steam roll Mayweather's opponents.

I think the toughest fight would have been 154 Oscar. It would have been a war for the first 6 rounds, and then I think Cotto would give him a beating in the second half. DLH was just a part-timer with not much left in the gas tank. If that fight would have happened, Pacquaio wouldn't have had the opportunity to beat up Oscar and become who he is.

JMM and Hatton were out of their weightclasses who both would have gotten murked. JMM worse than Hatton. The JMM that Floyd fought was just sad, bloated twinkie eating bastard who was just there for the $. Sad display for fans.

Honestly, I would have loved a prime Castillo/Cotto. Would have been a war at even weights.

[check hook]

what was so great about the oscar that floyd fought? just because he gave floyd problems doesn't mean he was a great fighter. he was marching forward throwing a ton of ineffective punches and couldn't setup anything. it was rather sad to see and i thought maybe it was just floyd's great defense but nope against forbes and pac the same oscar showed up.

standard post by daggum, it ignores:

- the fact that Mayweather won 9 rds to 3 without taking any risks offensively bar round four (or it could have been round 5)

- the punches were ineffective because he couldn't find Floyd who was moving alot, and his own feet don't move with any urgency.

- the Forbes fight was after the Maywweather fight and at 150, where his face was bruised after the bout from a light hitting Forbes.....a sure sign he struggled with the weight loss (Roach actually mentioned this fight and the fact it was visible Oscar struggled with the weight).

- Couldn't resist throwing MP's name in the mix, actually being such a big **** rider as to suggest the same Oscar that showed up against Floyd was the same one that showed up against Pac.... Floyd would have "Gatti'd that version of Oscar at 147, in the same manner MP did or any top welter would have done.

- And the biggest point you missed is that invariably when two left hook specialists who like to fight face each other the one with the better left hook, better power and better chin wins. Cotto likes to stand and fight, Oscar wouldn't have to find the target, he could just tee off like he did against Mayorga the fight before his match with FMJ.


Probably a good fight because Oscar was faded when he fought Floyd, but at 154 he would beat Cotto. Prime for prime Cotto isn't actually even in Oscar's league and this is coming from an ODLH hater......i hate, but recognising reality is also important, and the reality is that Oscar was a pretty damn handy fighter, who has alot of good names on his resume, win or lose.