Some good fighters, I think Oscar was good but How can I get his joke of a performance against Manny, that for me makes it impossible to call him ATG, Modern great (ie top 40 in last 2 decades) definately. The thing is, the alphabet soup we have today makes title's almost meaningless. Pacquiao looked tiny in there, but he was the only one fighting, the most one sided beat down in years.
Why is Oscar so underated on here?
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Some good fighters, I think Oscar was good but How can I get his joke of a performance against Manny, that for me makes it impossible to call him ATG, Modern great (ie top 40 in last 2 decades) definately. The thing is, the alphabet soup we have today makes title's almost meaningless. Pacquiao looked tiny in there, but he was the only one fighting, the most one sided beat down in years.Guy had a killer left hook and has a solid resume,champion in 6 different divisions.
Chavez-2 times
Whitaker
Vargas
Mayorga
Gatti
Quartey
Camacho
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Genaro Hernandez
Felix Sturm
10 time champion,6 divisions
defended his wbc ww title 7 times and his wbo lw title 6 timesComment
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I agree
I couldn't say it better, I know, I tried. Big kudos for the wise old man with the impressive beard, top notch post.Very good but not great.
I personally was never a fan because of the way he fought. Trying to steal rounds by throwing flurries in the last 10 seconds. Hitting air against Whitaker but still celebrating. Running backwards against Angel Gonzalez after building up a big lead.
His effort against Floyd was just irritating.
I was never a fan. But i appreciate what he did.
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It's actually the other way around. Is the people who started watching boxing around 2006. Who go look at boxrec and see all the "names" he has on his resume.Because most of boxingscene's active userbase are people who only started watching boxing post-De La Hoya/Mayweather.
Therefore all they saw of Oscar was him being clearly outboxed by Floyd, picking on an undersized Steve Forbes, and quitting on his stool against Pacquiao.
Ontop of this, they boxrec him and see that he "lost" to Trinidad, and "lost" to Mosley both times, and assume he was mediocre.
Most of them have no idea whatsoever what a beast De La Hoya truly was during his day, how many world champions he defeated, or what his legacy actually is.
And, thinking Wow, he's great he fought everybody...
But, not realizing that more importantly than who is when.Comment
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De La Hoya was a decent fighter but the only real thing that kept him going was his popularity, thats about it.Comment
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I sensed jrosales13 may have made a few posts in this particular thread before I even clicked on it.Comment
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DE LA HOYTARDS didn't watch boxing before 88', Goes both ways man, I'd rather be a Ganstard or a John L. Sullytard any day, Pacman smacked Oscar, Just get over it and get fair dinkum. Go the Paqman.
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