You know something, who is at 154 thats a decent opponent for Alvarez?

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  • EdMon917
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    #21
    Originally posted by vacon04
    I have to disagree especially with Wolak, I think Wolak can beat Canelo because Alvarez just has never faced a real opponent that's able to put pressure as Wolak does. Most of Canelo's fights have been against bad opposition or boxers that are not completely confident that they'll beat him, however Wolak is a confident boxer who has great stamina and is able to make a hard fight for his rival.

    At this point, if you put Canelo against a guy that puts a lot of pressure such as Wolak ,he'll get into uncharted territory
    Alvarez has underrated Ring IQ in my opinion, he really tries to use the entire ring (he really showed he knows what he was doing, for a 20 year old kid, against Rhodes). If a guy like Wolak is coming at him I'm sure he'll use the entire ring and set up combos here and there. Wolak isn't hard to hit also, he's pretty open and with guys like Foreman or Rodriguez that landed shots on him, I'm sure Alvarez could the same if not land much more. I can see Alvarez losing to smart fighters, someone like Lara, Vanes, or Trout. I don't know, Alvarez/Wolak would sure be entertaining.

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    • SCtrojansbaby
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      #22
      Originally posted by LegendOfLink
      Thats a ridiculous statement. Even a shot Ricardo Mayorga is better then Ryan ****ing Rhodes.

      You're an idiot Ryan Rhodes was ranked as the #4 light middleweight in the world when Canelo destroyed him. Mayorga hasn't won a fight since 2007 and isn't even a top 50 light middleweight.

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        #23
        Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
        You're an idiot Ryan Rhodes was ranked as the #4 light middleweight in the world when Canelo destroyed him. Mayorga hasn't won a fight since 2007 and isn't even a top 50 light middleweight.
        Don't give a ****, Ryan Rhodes is not good. He fought most of his career in england no wonder why he got up in the rankings against weak opposition. You don't know what the hell you are talking about, everyone is laugh at you not with you clown.

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          #24
          Originally posted by eddie_monster
          Alvarez has underrated Ring IQ in my opinion, he really tries to use the entire ring (he really showed he knows what he was doing, for a 20 year old kid, against Rhodes). If a guy like Wolak is coming at him I'm sure he'll use the entire ring and set up combos here and there. Wolak isn't hard to hit also, he's pretty open and with guys like Foreman or Rodriguez that landed shots on him, I'm sure Alvarez could the same if not land much more. I can see Alvarez losing to smart fighters, someone like Lara, Vanes, or Trout. I don't know, Alvarez/Wolak would sure be entertaining.

          Vanes is a much easier opponent than Wolak, Lara or Trout

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            #25
            Originally posted by LegendOfLink
            Don't give a ****, Ryan Rhodes is not good. He fought most of his career in england no wonder why he got up in the rankings against weak opposition.

            LOL Yeah Rhodes was winning fights in England earning a #4 rating. Mayorga was sitting on his couch eating ice creme.

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            • vacon04
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              #26
              Originally posted by eddie_monster
              Alvarez has underrated Ring IQ in my opinion, he really tries to use the entire ring (he really showed he knows what he was doing, for a 20 year old kid, against Rhodes). If a guy like Wolak is coming at him I'm sure he'll use the entire ring and set up combos here and there. Wolak isn't hard to hit also, he's pretty open and with guys like Foreman or Rodriguez that landed shots on him, I'm sure Alvarez could the same if not land much more. I can see Alvarez losing to smart fighters, someone like Lara, Vanes, or Trout. I don't know, Alvarez/Wolak would sure be entertaining.
              The thing is that Rhodes for example was not a pressure fighter, he was not putting pressure on Canelo, therefore making things easier for him. It's a lot easier to think when you are not in trouble.

              Wolak can be defeated and has some huge vulnerabilities such as Rodriguez showed in their past fight, however Rodriguez had a great gameplan, in fact one that was completely different for example to the plan that Foreman showed against Wolak. Rodriguez knew that it was completely impossible to get Wolak away from him, so he decided to use his uppercuts and used his body and distance to make Wolak hit several punches that were not really powerful.

              However, Canelo is a boxer that likes to move around the ring and then get some bursts of fast combinations, something that's very hard to do against a guy such as Wolak.

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                #27
                Originally posted by vacon04
                The thing is that Rhodes for example was not a pressure fighter, he was not putting pressure on Canelo, therefore making things easier for him. It's a lot easier to think when you are not in trouble.

                Wolak can be defeated and has some huge vulnerabilities such as Rodriguez showed in their past fight, however Rodriguez had a great gameplan, in fact one that was completely different for example to the plan that Foreman showed against Wolak. Rodriguez knew that it was completely impossible to get Wolak away from him, so he decided to use his uppercuts and used his body and distance to make Wolak hit several punches that were not really powerful.

                However, Canelo is a boxer that likes to move around the ring and then get some bursts of fast combinations, something that's very hard to do against a guy such as Wolak.

                Wolak is WAAAAAAAAY too dangerous for Canelo. Maybe in 3 years that might be something Golden Boy thinks about but now its just ****** to even suggest.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
                  Wolak is WAAAAAAAAY too dangerous for Canelo. Maybe in 3 years that might be something Golden Boy thinks about but now its just ****** to even suggest.
                  i don't think it's that dangerous. alvarez should have enough class and skills to beat him. imagine alvarez-wolak on a mayweather undercard. they would steal the show and everyone would want to tune into his next fight. that's how you market. not alvarez vs gomez beat down which no one will remember 5 minutes after it's over.

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                  • dodger66
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                    #29
                    yeh i agree he's not ready to beat the likes of cotto (and there's no way theyd move him up to face a 160 guy like martinez when essentially hes been facing natural 147s, and tomato cans at that.) but i also agree with matey boy up there, if he's the champ (which i'm not even sure he is) then he has to fight the best. outside cotto the light-middle division has turned very weak in the last six months and you'd have to say angulo still represents the sternest test, followed probably and reluctantly by k9.

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                      #30
                      Sergio
                      Angulo
                      Cotto
                      Lara
                      Williams
                      Martirosyan

                      These are all very tough fights for Canelo.

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