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Refuse to take the tests because you don't want to follow the demands of a bully. File a lawsuit because this man and his family accused you of taking PEDs with no proof whatsoever. Deal with PED accusations for years from people who have no proof.
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If Pacquiao (or any other non-black fighter) make racist remarks about Mayweather, it would've never been let go by boxing fans. For whatever reason, it isn't mentioned much nowadays. In any event, it was disgusting behavior.
The baseless accusations are still front and center in the boxing world because that's the supposed sticking point that holding up this fight from getting made.
Got that, you idiot?Comment
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You've made many interesting comments on this thread. I'm definitely interested to see what happens with these new developments.
Can you tell me a little bit about yourself? Are you a boxing writer (as your name would suggest lol)? I'm curious, since you said you have an inside source on this matter.Comment
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"Will be exposed"????
The man has already been found guilty of bribery of boxing officials. He's already been found guilty of bribing magazine to alter the rankings of Top Rank fighters.
how much more does he need to be exposed?
Full disclosure ... transparency ... same ****.
I truly believe that if Manny Pacquiao doesn't know what's going on in his wallet then he doesn't have a working knowledge what's going on in his body either.
Either a fighter is aware of what's going on in all aspects of HIS OWN career, or he's going along for the ride and expects to be later entitled to plausible deniability. Its one things to have one incident. Its another to claim that you have NO IDEA about what goes on in any other aspect of your own career aside from the actual fight in the ring.
Other fighters have been involved in scandals. None in recent memory have been so oblivious to everything around them. I don't believe Pacquiao is as in the dark as he claims. I believe he knows and has reason to suspect many things.
Yet he has only now gone public with his so-called internal strife when Mayweather has put the screws to him in public.
Glass houses anyone?
Every time Floyd Mayweather looked at someone cross eyed there was a lawsuit filed, and the media ate it up. They made Floyd look like the guilty party and many people rejoiced.
Now that Manny Pacquiao has given reason to believe that he's being robbed blind and being controlled like a pet boxing is treating it like a tragedy????
Fcuk Manny Pacquiao. I have no sympathy for him or the legions of insane sycophants that worship him. I had no interest in him as a man. He was only a boxer. However the only way that Arum could hype up Pacquiao was by tearing down the REAL King of boxing. There can't be two kings, and Arum needed to make Pacquiao as big as he could ... as fast as he could.
Pacquiao does his job in the ring and does it well. No question about that. The problem is that Arum makes SURE that Pacquiao ONLY fights boxers who have been shattered and dethroned within the span of one tune up or less. Sure, Pacquiao beat them all, but the only reason that those 5th ranked boxers were given a chance was BECAUSE OF THEIR SIZE ... and Arum made sure that he played games with their weight just enough to give Pacquiao an actual advantage pertaining to the ability to optimally perform at the weight on fight night. When Manny Pacquiao is asked about why he was facing THREE Top Rank fighters IN A ROW he replied "Ask my promoter".
There has to be some accountability. Either Manny Pacquiao has been complicit in everything that Arum has done one way or the other or he is a complete moron who has put his money, career and legacy in the hands of a man who has been found as a crook years ago.
There is no debate.
Let me ask the posters this question:
Would you trust Don King or Bob Arum with your life savings? No?
Would you trust Don King or Bob Arum .. which none of you know personally .. to watch you children?
Well think about this: Manny Pacquiao has trusted Arum to control everything except who he puts his d!ck in!
Arum has set up Pacquiao's fights.
Arum has made Pacquiao into a celebrity.
Arum has ABSOLUTELY kept Pacquiao away from ANY negotiations with Team Mayweather.
Arum is a vampire who has kept TRUE greatness away from Manny Pacquiao for the sake of his own blood bank. He's sucking Manny dry. There were plenty of worthy opponents out there for Manny to fight, but Arum only bets on a sure thing. It was easier for Manny to have a so-called mini-tournament against Top Rank fighters than to face any intangibles that couldn't be swayed or manipulated in terms of weight.
So now in retrospect, Pacquiao will simply claim that he fought whoever "they" put in front of him, but the "they" is really a "he" named Arum and he put all of Top Ranks losers in front of Manny.
Now, most fighters, great or typical, have losses. I am not criticizing Top Rank fighters for having incurred a loss. I am criticizing Arum for waiting until they got the biggest loss of their careers before he would put his golden goose in the ring with them. Six in a row including Mosley!
A tune up does NOT qualify as them coming off a win that justifies them being in a championship match. It simply means that they can still win at the lowest level of competition. That and to dust off some ring rust before a more meaningful match ala Pacquiao.
Pacquiao could have been legitimately a star but he let the hype fill in the gaps of his career that should have been filled by substance.
He can't complain though. I really don't think that Manny Pacquiao would have been half the star that he is now were it not for Arum. In fact I don't think Pacquiao would have had any star power at all were it not for Arum. He got a LOT for his allegiance. He should have no regrets unless he's crazy enough to fight Mayweather while Floyd is still in his prime.
Arum knows that Pacquiao is a great fighter but he will not beat elite talent in boxing. That's why they waited 4 years to offer Marquez a rematch. That's why they are stalling on signing the contract. That's why Pacquiao's biggest wins have come over 5th ranked fighters.
I'm not saying the man isn't dynamite in the ring. He's explosive. However boxing is more than sheer athleticism. Its a craft. Pacquiao has not by any means come close to mastering that craft. He simply outhustled his opponents with an incredibly high workrate. He is not a better boxer than Marquez by any means. In this upcoming fight, its the WEIGHT that will be the deciding factor. Arum makes WWs move down and LWs move up to fight Manny.
This DOES NOT look good. Its doesn't bode well for his legacy. Its more weight class manipulation, and it makes it look as though Manny cannot win without some sort of home weight advantage.
This isn't my opinion. Its a trend that's been happening since 2008. The "he's too small" excuse is tired and old. He wasn't "too small" when he fought Margarito for a vacant jrMW belt.
Why can't Pacquiao go down and fight Marquez at 130lbs if he is "so small"? If he is struggling to stay above 140lbs like *******s say, then why not simply go down and fight Marquez there?
It makes no sense unless this is all for an advantage. And advantages like these are not viewed in ANY era as fair or equal. And if the advantages are not fair or equal, then the matches aren't fair or equal. This just makes sense.
I agree with the notion that states many boxers have fought at catchweights. However none of those boxers used weight manipulation as a sole source of advantage. I don't see how ANYONE can argue this point.
And this latest fight just goes to show that you don't have to just be a bigger boxer for Pacquiao to seek those unfair weight advantages. You can just be a better boxer.
*******s don't have to agree or like it, but in the last 6 months alone, Pacman went from having a legacy that was holier than thou to just having a legacy full of holes. And now with his camp supposedly falling apart(I say supposedly because I suspect its a ploy to stall the fight with Floyd) this will be reason for Pacquiao to NEVER fight Floyd. He'll retire before he'll take a test to show that Arum gave him the kool-aid.Comment
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It would not surprise me at all if everything that BoxingScribe has said is true.
Clearly Arum is milking the Manny-cow for everything that he can get, and he has already been convicted of bribery and corruption.
That would explain the " second " negotiation perfectly, and it would also explain Greenburgs involvement, because CLEARLY errand-boy Greenburg is in no position to hold a negotiation period, let alone by himself
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I agree, I have been saying that as well, no argument there.....
That became obvious when I exposed Arum on his bull**** " deadline ".
But Manny knew that Bob Arum walked away from negotiations back in Dec 2009 and publicly stated that the fight was off because..... Pac would not agree to blood tests without a 24-day cutoff.
Manny knew the official reason why the fight was cancelled because it was splashed all over the front page of every leading newspaper in the world.
And he also knew about the 8 different excuses, because they were well documented as well.
USADA ?
Real interesting though.
I thought that Pac was just holding out for more money, like Arum has stated that he often does, I didnt realise that VQ's involvement had affected Manny's affairs to that extent. Good for Manny, he is taking control of his life, good ****.
Watch this space.Comment
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