The Way To Beat Mayweather

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  • Ganondorf
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    #11
    Originally posted by Chadmazing
    Personally, I think the way to beat Mayweather is by boxing him. Not just that simple obviously. You need massive punching power, and intelligence. I think Floyd's worst nightmare would be Kostya Tszyu. I think the way to beat him is to hold over his head the threat that you're capable of hitting him and capable of stopping him when you do. This will stop Floyd from jumping in and potshotting. Then it's a matter of outworking him and minimizing his return fire. These guys that try to run at him end up maximizing his connect percentage and end up getting tied up inside. You really gotta pick spots and only spots to do that - just enough to up your punch count and steal moments for the scorecards. And you definitely need to be able to feint a lot. Floyd reacts to his opponent. That's his talent. You can't just try to blow fastballs by him. You gotta threaten with a mean fastball and set him up with changeups. Just another way to keep his mind busy and his offense down.

    Floyd's biggest flaw would be that his style is based on having to be perfect. He wins rounds by clearly landing and not clearly getting hit. If somebody were able to muddy that water a bit then they turn everything around and put the onus on Floyd to have to make something happen.

    If there was a WW Kostya Tszyu today that would be the guy to beat Floyd.
    Interesting opinion. I would respectfully disagree. Let me first say that I love Kostya Tszyu and have followed him all throughout his hall-of-fame career. He certainly was the man of his era and there's really no dis*****g that.

    Personally, I feel as though Floyd Mayweather would stomp all over Kostya Tszyu. Kostya Tszyu needs to be at distance to land his power shots and he was simply not fast enough to be on the outside with Mayweather.

    I would love to see the fight. Especially if Joe Cortez is NOT the referee. Hatton smothered Tszyu and I would expect Floyd to alternate between boxing from the outside, and doing a masterful job working on the inside, and just frustrating and wearing down Kostya Tszyu. Tszyu struggled on the inside against Hatton, I would expect Floyd to fight a smart, tactical fight and emerge with the win.

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    • ModernTalking
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      #12
      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
      The way and only way to beat Mayweather is to throw when he throws. Given his defensive skills, that's really the only way to land cleanly and hurt him....

      That said, Floyd made an interesting point last night during Face Off. He said it looks different being on the outside looking in. But once you're in there, it's a completely different story. This statement makes total since.

      I remember watching the Hatton fight and all the other fights thinking, "why won't they just do this or that". Floyd answered my questions clearly!
      Sounds like Dela Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley thoughts before facing PAC. From the outside it's an easy work Asian midget but on the inside it's no joke.

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      • MindBat
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        #13
        It's all good to say how someone can beat Floyd BUT have any potential Floyd opponents ever fought fighters with Floyd's ring intelligence and masterful defense ???

        That's the question the majority seem to miss asking every time a thread like this is made.

        Have other fighters faced a similar fighter to Floyd in their career?

        Any wonder why trainers and fighters have a plan for beating Floyd but come up short every time?

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        • Chadmazing
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          #14
          Originally posted by MindBat
          It's all good to say how someone can beat Floyd BUT have any potential Floyd opponents ever fought fighters with Floyd's ring intelligence and masterful defense ???

          That's the question the majority seem to miss asking every time a thread like this is made.

          Have other fighters faced a similar fighter to Floyd in their career?

          Any wonder why trainers and fighters have a plan for beating Floyd but come up short every time?
          Every fighter and trainer says they're going to do like Castillo, though. That's why they come in thinking they have to land from the inside, get there, take a forearm in the face and put back outside after a clinch to run into more punches and pile up the points for HIM.

          Someone mentioned Floyd being down on points - that's what my idea is to do. Make it close on points and force him to have to be something other than perfect.

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          • Chadmazing
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            #15
            Originally posted by Ganondorf
            Interesting opinion. I would respectfully disagree. Let me first say that I love Kostya Tszyu and have followed him all throughout his hall-of-fame career. He certainly was the man of his era and there's really no dis*****g that.

            Personally, I feel as though Floyd Mayweather would stomp all over Kostya Tszyu. Kostya Tszyu needs to be at distance to land his power shots and he was simply not fast enough to be on the outside with Mayweather.

            I would love to see the fight. Especially if Joe Cortez is NOT the referee. Hatton smothered Tszyu and I would expect Floyd to alternate between boxing from the outside, and doing a masterful job working on the inside, and just frustrating and wearing down Kostya Tszyu. Tszyu struggled on the inside against Hatton, I would expect Floyd to fight a smart, tactical fight and emerge with the win.
            Nobody has ever been too fast for Kostya. Floyd could win; but Tszyu could land on him without having to eat punches or get so close Floyd can pivot and skate away without worry. If you keep distance, he can't turn the corner on you.

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            • tennis-legend
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              #16
              why do ppl say there is no blueprint?

              just ask castillo


              castillo
              thrown 506
              landed 203

              mayweather
              thrown 448
              landed 157

              jabs

              mayweather
              thrown 297
              landed 91

              castillo
              thrown 129
              landed 30

              POWER PUNCHES

              castillo
              thrown 377
              landed 173

              mayweather
              thrown 151
              landed 66

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                #17
                Originally posted by Chadmazing
                Every fighter and trainer says they're going to do like Castillo, though. That's why they come in thinking they have to land from the inside, get there, take a forearm in the face and put back outside after a clinch to run into more punches and pile up the points for HIM.

                Someone mentioned Floyd being down on points - that's what my idea is to do. Make it close on points and force him to have to be something other than perfect.
                I believe it was against Judah, where Floyd was down by three or four rounds. Floyd then made the adjustments to win the fight.

                The thing is, when fighting Floyd you also have to be prepared for his adjustments; not just yours.

                Floyd is a very intelligent fighter, and a handful to deal with for anyone.

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                • MindBat
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Chadmazing
                  Every fighter and trainer says they're going to do like Castillo, though. That's why they come in thinking they have to land from the inside, get there, take a forearm in the face and put back outside after a clinch to run into more punches and pile up the points for HIM.

                  Someone mentioned Floyd being down on points - that's what my idea is to do. Make it close on points and force him to have to be something other than perfect.
                  "Rough him up" is also what most say has to be done to Floyd in order to frustrate him. It's risky, but it might work.

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                  • bballchump11
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by tennis-legend
                    why do ppl say there is no blueprint?

                    just ask castillo


                    castillo
                    thrown 506
                    landed 203

                    mayweather
                    thrown 448
                    landed 157

                    jabs

                    mayweather
                    thrown 297
                    landed 91

                    castillo
                    thrown 129
                    landed 30

                    POWER PUNCHES

                    castillo
                    thrown 377
                    landed 173

                    mayweather
                    thrown 151
                    landed 66
                    Why couldn't Castillo pull off his own blue print in the rematch.

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                    • MindBat
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by tennis-legend
                      why do ppl say there is no blueprint?

                      just ask castillo


                      castillo
                      thrown 506
                      landed 203

                      mayweather
                      thrown 448
                      landed 157

                      jabs

                      mayweather
                      thrown 297
                      landed 91

                      castillo
                      thrown 129
                      landed 30

                      POWER PUNCHES

                      castillo
                      thrown 377
                      landed 173

                      mayweather
                      thrown 151
                      landed 66
                      Ok. Perhaps, there are many blueprints on beating Floyd. You seem to forget
                      Floyd fought with basically 1 arm in the first fight and still managed to pull off a win.

                      Since not many were convinced of the results of the first one, Floyd agreed to an immediate rematch when FGloyd had both arms to fight with and the results of that were .... well you know the rest.

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