Guerrero: Pacquaio should take the drug test, if he has nothing to hide.

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  • Cotto's Father
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    #151
    Originally posted by LegendOfLink
    Are they the ones who screwed up the Salido/Guerrero tests? Or are they the ones who re-tested Salido and found out he didn't use steroids?
    they had 0 to do with it

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    • D4thincarnation
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      #152
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      USADA does all the testing for the US Olympic team and WADA says they are the best testing body to use.

      It's ridiculous to think they would tarnish their reputation just to "plant" false evidence on Pacquiao, on Floyd's behalf.
      I don't think they would, but if Travis incharge of the schedule it is not good that him and Floyd are friends.

      It is not like there is no one else in the world that can carry out the testing.

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        #153
        Originally posted by larry's brother
        lmfao these pathetic ass b1tch repeat everything arum says..now usada is biased towards floyd...they drug test athletes for a damn living..the **** is wrong with ya'll??

        yes.. they're biased you ***** hippo.. it's been clear since the first negotiation that tygart and usada's in the pockets of the may clan.. if you can't see that then i won't be surprised since you're one big hippo..

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        • D4thincarnation
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          #154
          Originally posted by larry's brother
          so what happened to"we agreed to all of his demands"

          this is just a new excuse...

          And the problem with an organisation other than USADA carrying out the tests?

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            #155
            Originally posted by larry's brother
            they had 0 to do with it
            Do you think its ****ed up Guerrero is taking shots at Salido when the steroid testers said that Salido naturally produces what they were testing for? I do, I think its screwed up as hell. It's like Guerrero is so dumb he thinks all our bodies work the same and produce the exact hormones when clearly the steroid testers say thats not true.

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            • D4thincarnation
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              #156
              Come to think of it why is Floyd want USADA to carry out the tests no matter want.

              That stance itself is a bit dodgy.

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              • William Blake
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                #157
                This is Guerrero trying to get his 15 minutes on the Pacquiao name.

                Pacquiao has already agree, ok? How many times does it have to be said on camera and written in print?

                "The Test" is really about power and leverage. Making one fighter bend to the will of another so it can be lorded over them. Also, Floyd's particular hoop was quite ingenious as it turned Floyd from villain to "the clean fighter" while the hero, Pacquiao, is turned to a suspected villain. You can be sure Al Haymon and a table of clever lawyers sat around and worked this through.

                Also, the particular line of logic- 'You should do x if you don't have anything to hide' is basically converse to our most basic legal principle. That is, 'You don't have to do X until I have enough evidence to warrant it'. Police can't just bust into your house because they want to. They need to have sufficient cause. Basically, innocent until proven guilty. This is the founding principle in criminal law, and perhaps all law.

                So Guerrero knows he will get a little light by name dropping Pacquiao. He's on his way up and wants to get the money that comes from the big fights. His motives are wrong. In time, he will get taken apart. Perhaps Maidana can do it.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by William Blake
                  This is Guerrero trying to get his 15 minutes on the Pacquiao name.

                  Pacquiao has already agree, ok? How many times does it have to be said on camera and written in print?

                  "The Test" is really about power and leverage. Making one fighter bend to the will of another so it can be lorded over them. Also, Floyd's particular hoop was quite ingenious as it turned Floyd from villain to "the clean fighter" while the hero, Pacquiao, is turned to a suspected villain. You can be sure Al Haymon and a table of clever lawyers sat around and worked this through.

                  Also, the particular line of logic- 'You should do x if you don't have anything to hide' is basically converse to our most basic legal principle. That is, 'You don't have to do X until I have enough evidence to warrant it'. Police can't just bust into your house because they want to. They need to have sufficient cause. Basically, innocent until proven guilty. This is the founding principle in criminal law, and perhaps all law.

                  So Guerrero knows he will get a little light by name dropping Pacquiao. He's on his way up and wants to get the money that comes from the big fights. His motives are wrong. In time, he will get taken apart. Perhaps Maidana can do it.
                  Why didn't fudgepacking Guerrero bring up the facts. This proves to me that drug-testing doesn't even work. Because its testing for **** that can be created naturally by the body!

                  "It is commonly known that nandrolone is produced by the body, especially in periods when the body is placed in stressful activity like dehydration, diet and strenuous exercise.

                  "If Salido had taken steroids, his second test done only one day after NSAC findings would have shown it still in its system. Steroids don't go away overnight!"

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Pacquiao has felt that way about having his blood taken well before Mayweather mentioned it.

                    Probably where Floyd got the idea from.

                    But Floyd stance on blood tests only came to the forefront when he was going to fight Pacquiao.


                    Some people have no problem giving blood, some people do, I suspect Robert doesn't care.

                    George Foreman would have a problem with it. He was in tears when he had to have shots for the rumble in the jungle.
                    Yep. Manny is afraid of needles. How could we forget.

                    Something fishy going on in Pacland, and it's been going on since 2009. I'm not a Pac hater. But since this stuff has been brought to the forefront, I've became less & less of fan of his.

                    It's really starting to look like he's a cheatin' SOB. And we've had enough of that **** in sports already.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by LegendOfLink
                      Why didn't fudgepacking Guerrero bring up the facts. This proves to me that drug-testing doesn't even work. Because its testing for **** that can be created naturally by the body!

                      "It is commonly known that nandrolone is produced by the body, especially in periods when the body is placed in stressful activity like dehydration, diet and strenuous exercise.

                      "If Salido had taken steroids, his second test done only one day after NSAC findings would have shown it still in its system. Steroids don't go away overnight!"
                      if we asks the peds-expert *****s and it's about pac then steriod does go away overnight..

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