H and his average now is 65%, so he was at what, 70% before his last 6 fights.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostIf Pacquiao fought guys like Forresst and Wright he'd get his ass beat too. But he's fighting the Cotto's and Margarito's, who an old Shane fought to a draw at worst against a prime undefeated Cotto, and knocked out a fresher Margarito in 9 rounds.
If Pacquiao fights guys like Mayweather, Martinez, and Bradley, i'm pretty sure he'd get his ass beat.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostDonaire started at Super Flyweight and has a title there but he went down to Flyweight and won a title then moved back to Super Flyweight, then up to Bantamweight.
So he has titles in 3 divisions.
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Originally posted by New England View Posthe's got world titles at 112, 115, and now 118 where he's the hardest punching bantamweight i've ever seen
and if you think he's going to be a bantamweight forever you are wrong
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostHis competition is not that great period. But coming from 106 and knocking out much bigger B and C fighters is still pretty weird.
With the 1 punch power he has, and being basically the average height of a WW, I don't see Nonito Donaire coming up to 147 and knocking out guys who use to be good at one point in their career. I just don't see it. But it could happen if he gets the right team[Roach and Ariza]. And I don't think Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard 100% Whey Protein would do much, he'll need some special milkshakes. But Donaire looks like a good guy, he doesn't look like he'd ever cheat or get with a cheating team.
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostWhen you say "people", can you give more examples of fighters like G Jones? Not just recently, but in the history....
but at 140lbs he was still a dynamite puncher and fast, but also had durability.
Pazienza started at lightweight, but successfully went up in weight and did well at 168lbs against Herol Graham and beat Gilbert Dele for a title and Dana Rosenblatt.(I dont believe he should have beaten Haugen at lightweight).
Archie Moore started his career at 147lbs, but was clearly a much better fighter at LHW...in fact he was one of the best LHWs ever period. Ezzard Charles was also much better at LHW and HW than he was at MW.
is that enough?
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Originally posted by Steak View PostDLH started off at 130lbs and was getting dropped there, people thought his chin was shaky.
but at 140lbs he was still a dynamite puncher and fast, but also had durability.
Pazienza started at lightweight, but successfully went up in weight and did well at 168lbs against Herol Graham and beat Gilbert Dele for a title and Dana Rosenblatt.(I dont believe he should have beaten Haugen at lightweight).
Archie Moore started his career at 147lbs, but was clearly a much better fighter at LHW...in fact he was one of the best LHWs ever period. Ezzard Charles was also much better at LHW and HW than he was at MW.
is that enough?
Paz was caught using steriods (maybe explaining the weight gain) + Paz wasn't KOing guys. I understand Paz had that bad car accident, maybe that explains the use of roids. But either way, some question whether or not he put that weight on naturally...
I don't remember Archie Moore starting at 147lb. I'll have to research that, but for now I'll take your word for it.
Not sure if E Charles's KO % increased as he went up in weight... I'll have to research it if someone doesn't beat me to it first.....
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostI wouldn't say DLH was getting "dropped" as you put it plurally. Maybe once, but not like that.
Paz was caught using steriods (maybe explaining the weight gain) + Paz wasn't KOing guys. I understand Paz had that bad car accident, maybe that explains the use of roids. But either way, some question whether or not he put that weight on naturally...
I don't remember Archie Moore starting at 147lb. I'll have to research that, but for now I'll take your word for it.
Not sure if E Charles's KO % increased as he went up in weight... I'll have to research it if someone doesn't beat me to it first.....
Jimmy McClarnin who is just the same size as Pac, same height, reach, build fought the first great Filipino fighter Pancho Villa near the flyweight limit and won a decision I believe went up to WW and destroyed HOF'er Young Corbett III in 1 round and a very faded old Benny Leonard in 6 rounds I believe.
If I'm not mistaken Sam Langford fought as low as LW maybe even featherweight went all the way up to HW and KO'd such greats as Joe jeanette. Langford was just 5'7 I think.
Anyways are you actually interested in learning the history of the sport. Or is this whole thread about Pac being a cheat.Last edited by jrosales13; 07-17-2011, 05:33 PM.
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