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ROCK'N, I understand that u are trying to come off as righteous and all that and thats FINE...but, listen, Hagler never had a problem with 15 rounds...neither did Ali, etc etc...if u want to protect fighters from the rigors of professional boxing then DONT LET THEM GO PRO...stay in the amateurs...this is about the best FIGHTERS in the world...it is SUPPOSED to be very difficult, that is exactly how u separate the elite from the very good and the very good from the good, etc etc...15 rounds would force fighters AND trainers to step up their game...I personally know fighters and former fighters who preferred 15 to 12 by a WIDE MARGIN...
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boxing superstars are getting paid tremendous amounts of money. most of the time they're getting more than what they deserved. what is 3 rounds more of excitement to give back to the fans? we've seen some fighters before to waste some rounds being too cautious because they know they're way ahead in the cards. in a 12-round fight they try to get ahead in the first 8 rounds and then coast their way to victory for the last 4 rounds being too cautious and without a scratch in their face. and then fans will complain for not getting their money's worth watching the fight on ppv. getting just 7 or 8 good rounds in a 12-round fight is a rip-off. so why not make it a 15-round fight where they need more rounds to win the fight? where they need to push themselves a little bit more to win the fight? nothing wrong with that...besides the bigger the fight the higher they charge for a ppv.Comment
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I'm not trying to come off as anything, I'm just saying it the way that I see it. Ask Ali today what 15 rounds means and see if he can answer the question.
Rather than protect the fighters abit by limiting their title bouts to only 12 rounds you propose instead to have nobody fight pro, ingenious..............Rockin'
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Thats a ****** thing to say. Ali has Parkinsons. He isnt brain damaged. There is no evidence that going 15 rounds caused his Parkinsons, or that it was due to the punches he took.I'm not trying to come off as anything, I'm just saying it the way that I see it. Ask Ali today what 15 rounds means and see if he can answer the question.
Rather than protect the fighters abit by limiting their title bouts to only 12 rounds you propose instead to have nobody fight pro, ingenious..............Rockin'
Im for 15 rounds. Maybe just for unification fights. Its subjective what is considered a 'super-fight'.Comment
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They call it Parkinsons, after all Ali was the greatest. Possibly taint the beautiful yet brutal art or possibly sway you into thinking it was something else.
Jerry Quarrey was an interesting tale, a tough kid with the heart of a lion and a never say die attitude.
I can't remember their names, they were featured in a documentary that I had watched. A couple of young boxers coming up fighting their way through the profession ranks. The footage was shot in a care giving center where people could not care for themselves. One brother had to wear a hockey helmet because he continued to fall down. I believe that the other was in a wheelchair. Neither brother could speak very well and their mental capacities were limited.
I also can't remember this guys name. An ex worlds champion who spent his elderly years in a care giving center every morning reminding the nurses that he had a fight tonight and that he needed to get ready.
Check out Ad Wolgast and how he spent many of his years after retiring from the ring.
Walk up to Al "Blue" Lewis, shake his monsterous hand and say hello. If you can understand anything of what he might say to you then let me know. Great hearted man is Blue.
Man, I can't remember his name.... That kid from Louisville who stole the show at the '60 olympics and then set the professional game ablaze. A single man who changed the world......
Ali did very well, you will not find him in a care center being tended to by nurses. You will find him at home being taken care of by family and nurses. But he is the greatest......... Parkinsons
................Rockin'
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I said," one could make a pretty compelling argument that the Network were responsible." I am not equipped to debate the topic to death.
It goes something like this. A 15 round match lasts so many odd mins more than fits in a regular time slot. So the Kim tragedy was perfect timing to make the change. That is about all i remember but last time i looked at the stuff it seemed to be plausible on some level.
I agree , 15 rounds would separate the good from the Best. How many of the Greats shined in The Championship Rounds.Comment
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RockN, it seems lik eevery time I post on any subject u have some kind of problem with it. always coming off with a nasty tone. Somethign I said? Whats the problem?I'm not trying to come off as anything, I'm just saying it the way that I see it. Ask Ali today what 15 rounds means and see if he can answer the question.
Rather than protect the fighters abit by limiting their title bouts to only 12 rounds you propose instead to have nobody fight pro, ingenious..............Rockin'Comment
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and Ali has Parkinson's, same as Michael J Fox...Ali's voice got quieter and huskier and noticeably so as early as 1970, well before he fought Frazier, Foreman, Spinks, Berbick, Holmes, etc etc...Comment
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WHO would have won this???
In any event, IMO ONLY...15 rounds is the way to find out who the best is....MANY MANY MANY boxers went 15 rounds over the course of history and did so willingly and did so well...it is an elite distance, yes...and thats the point...elite fights could use a little extra additive to make it extra special as it deserves to be..if any fight is a candidate then PAC-PBF is...Last edited by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY; 07-14-2011, 10:20 PM.Comment
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