USADA does not do any type of drug testing themselves!

[neoz]

wow look at all the farking ped expert.
take a bow.

[J Dubb II 330]

Just depends on if they consider training as part of competing. I really don't know nor do I care, as long as its blood and urine, unlimited and no cut off, as long as the wada or usada over sees the sample collecting, testing and results . the wada is the authority for the world when it comes to testing, as they have designated one organization per country to over see said country to follow wada Guidelines when anti doping testing, it sound like the ado's you mentioned would fall under said countries NADO

[BIGBOXINGFAN]

It's funny how just a few days ago all of Pacquiao's cult followers were b-tching about USADA giving out deals to people in exchange for their testimonies.
And how USADA can not be trusted.

Claiming that USADA giving out deals is like bribery.
Now you post an article with statements from the biggest scum in steroid history, mr Balco himself Victor Conte.

Here is a guy that has just admitted in this article that he has had meetings with USADA to help better their testing system.

Vic Conte has done deals and testified against so many people, and now he is the Pacquiao cult followers star witness.

Please post neutral articles and not this crap from examiner.
Dennis Dsource Guillermo is one of the biggest Patards of all time.
Does he ever write about anything else in his articles other than Pacquiao?

And you cult followers say that Fighthype is biased. Wow.
If your gonna b-tch about keeping everthing neutral, then keep it neutral.

[Bring It On]

Just depends on if they consider training as part of competing. I really don't know nor do I care, as long as its blood and urine, unlimited and no cut off, as long as the wada or usada over sees the sample collecting, testing and results . the wada is the authority for the world when it comes to testing, as they have designated one organization per country to over see said country to follow wada Guidelines when anti doping testing, it sound like the ado's you mentioned would fall under said countries NADO

What? Training is obviously not part of competition. The day of the competition, and probably even at or in connection to the place where the event takes place, is in-competition testing. When I've competed at national events, and some times regional, a special room has been assigned for the anti-doping people, where tests are collected. 8 weeks prior to your competition, in some gym in the Philippines is NOT in-competition testing.

[V.WEBB]

"I find the recent comments from USADA's Annie Skinner that WADA "does not do any actual testing, they do not have the infrastructure to do that." to be kind of amusing. The exact same thing can be said about USADA. However, WADA is the organization that actually provides the accreditation to the drug testing laboratories, not USADA. USADA does not do any type of drug testing themselves, they simply refer the testing out to a WADA accredited laboratory," Conte told me and further emphasized the agency's costly fees to conduct their random blood testing.

Continue reading on Examiner.com BALCO's Conte finds comedy in USADA's statements in response to Arum - National Filipino Sports | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/filipino-spo...#ixzz1RsCIsMaa

[Twako]

Usada would do manny because he is competing in the us .

For the first half of his training which usually is in the Philippines, the Phil sports commission, PSC, which is the local ADO accredited by WADA would most likely do the tests on Manny. Similar case for Floyd and the USADA here in the US.

Maybe when Manny goes to the US can he be possibly tested by USADA.

and again, this isn't the olympics, so NSAC possibly can collect data and send them over to WADA.

[BuckToothed]

nice thought but they are not accredited by the wada to collect samples, send samples and analyze results. There is a reason the wada accredits one agency to over see a nation.

But this fight is not in the Olympics... you can think of it as WADA "moonlighting" for additional revenue by providing their testing facilities for special sporting events, in this case Floyd vs Manny.

[BuckToothed]

well, USADA doesn't perform testing either.. they're like WADA in a sense.. they only collect samples but the testing was done by these WADA certified labs.. so arum wants to cut the biased middleman away, which is USADA.. what wrong with that? is the result gonna be gonna be tainted if it goes.. WADA->WADA cert labs->result to WADA.. instead of WADA->USADA->WADA cert labs->result to USADA->result to WADA...

or haven't you read the article accompanying this thread?

I think Arum wants NSAC->WADA->NSAC... he wants the commission to be involved first hand, not sure what is his angle with that condition since this can easily backfire.

[madsweeney]

I think Arum wants NSAC->WADA->NSAC... he wants the commission to be involved first hand, not sure what is his angle with that condition since this can easily backfire.

I think he wants it that way for 2 reasons. First, its the commission implementing the testing, not just the fighters. This can be a good thing as it could become more of a norm once the infrastructure is established.

The second reason is that the way Floyd has been doing things, there is no penalty for a fighter if he fails USADA's testing. If the commission is able to get the results (as they have not been able to) they can enforce penalties and/or other consequences (such as suspensions, etc).

If your for better testing in boxing, forcing the NSAC to perform this type of testing instead of a paid third-party that has no power in the sport, is a much better option.

[J Dubb II 330]

They would have to accredit the nasc as an ado. The psc is the nado for the philippines. The nasc could set policies in conjunction with wada and usada , so when either or is asked for by a fighter, manager, or promoter to handle the testing, the nasc could then set forth suspensions if said tests come back negative.

As for the usada handling mannys testing while he trains in the philippines, the nado part of the wada site didn't specify (I only read the main page )if the competitions host country would be responsible to gather and tests samples to competitors who are training outside of the country in which it is being held. I just assumed.

But like I said as long as the wada or usada oversees sample collecting and a accredited wada lab does the testing then I'm all for it, I just wanna see the fight.